A Guide to Vintage Men's Fedoras

Discussion in 'PUBLIC Vintage Chatter - Anything and everything' started by HatsEnough, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. HatsEnough

    HatsEnough Registered Guest

    Hello, ladies.

    I don't know if any of you are interested in men's haberdashery, but I've created some web pages to help you date and identify vintage fedoras.

    Please feel free to view them:

    Observations on Fedora Sweatbands and Fedora Dating Tips

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2011/01/02/observations-on-fedora-sweatbands-and-fedora-dating-tips/

    Dating Stetson Hats By Inventory Tag

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2012/01/01/dating-hats-by-inventory-tag/

    So… What’s the Deal With Those Hats? A tour of my collection

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2011/01/01/so-whats-the-deal-with-those-hats-huston/

    A Tour of My Collection of Antique Stetson Western Hats

    http://www.publiusforum.com/2012/01/01/my-collection-of-antique-stetson-western-hats/

    Thanks, and enjoy the pages.
  2. Metro Retro Vintage

    Metro Retro Vintage Trade Member

    What an amazing wealth of information, and that's quite a collection! Thank you so much for sharing these (I've bookmarked the links). I hope you'll stick around and stop by from time to time. :)
  3. Leonardo da Vintage

    Leonardo da Vintage Administrator Staff Member

    This is wonderful stuff!

    Although the VFG does seem to draw more women than men, we certainly do have an interest in men's hats! Very glad to have you here, welcome.
  4. cmpollack

    cmpollack Trade Member

    Fabulous resources and a fabulous collection! Thanks so much for sharing, and as Ruth and Laura have said, it's so nice to have you join us!
  5. themerchantsofvintage

    themerchantsofvintage Administrator Staff Member

  6. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing Administrator Staff Member

    Thank you so much, we do appreciate your sharing such a wealth of information with us. You must have quite the collection!
  7. vintagemerchant

    vintagemerchant Administrator Staff Member

    this is fabulous!! thank you so MUCH for sharing your knowledge with us, Warner! a very, very warm welcome to you!
  8. thespectrum

    thespectrum Trade Member

    Excellent, thanks so much :clapping:
  9. Pinkcoke

    Pinkcoke Trade Member

    Hi Warner,
    I occasionally post men's hats, and have sold a few too. For some reason I find I'm more attracted to men's than women's hats. Partly due to the labels inside them I think, and the possibilities for research. They can still be worn more frequently with modern dress than women's, and of course some women like to wear a fedora too nowadays :)

    As it happens I saw a Stetson for sale in a local charity shop for the first time last week. I passed on it as it was small and appeared to have moth damage to the top of the crown which I didn't think was repairable or unnoticeable enough. I may go back for photos though, just to see what I can find out with your wonderful link! I was surprised by how tall the crown was. It seems to be a foreign trait, I can't think of any British hats with that style of crown. I think it was made on licence in Britain. It was a nice cream colour and quite a thick wool or felt.
  10. HatsEnough

    HatsEnough Registered Guest

    Thanks, everyone. I have been collecting men's hats for quite some time. The hard thing about hats is that there is no one place to go to learn about them. Of course, that is because there were thousands of companies stretched out from the 1700s all the way to the 1960s, so it is a huge swath of time to learn about. The hey day was from 1890 to 1960, of course. Early hats are far and few between and the various companies went out of business a lot between 1940 and 1960 as hats started to be worn less and less as time went on.

    Many say that President John Kennedy "killed hats" but the truth is he wore them almost as much as any other man of his day (he was the last president to wear a top hat at official functions, by the way) and hats were dying out before he ever stepped into the White House.

    Anyway, more is known about Stetsons than any hat and Stetsons are my big interest--as you can see by my webpages.

    So, thanks for the welcome and I hope that my pages help you folks out when you are looking for a few tips on dating a hat.

    Thanks
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  11. Rue_de_la_Paix

    Rue_de_la_Paix Trade Member

    Warner,

    Welcome! Thank you for sharing, you are so generous for posting this hard to find information for us all. We do have some male members, and many women who collect or enjoy learning about men's hats.

    I have to say that I learned a lot from you already, you really get into the details. I have been collecting and researching hats for about 35 years, mostly woman's but I do have a small collection of man's hats and antique and vintage hat boxes also, from 1870 to 1950s. I often wear a man's hat if the occasion presents itself. My early 1950's stratoliner fits me to a T and I love it. I have a 1910-1920 large Western with a Cody, Wyoming stamp inside that I want to show you and get some more information on. We should talk!

    While I have not done a huge amount of research on the male side of hat making, I can see you certainly have. Wow. I appreciated seeing some hats in person in your photos, hats I have only previously seen in ads or drawings, or not seen at all.

    I agree with you about the stingy brims and trilbys, I adore a REAL fedora!

    I hope you come around the VFG Forums often, with more hat news and photos.:USETHUMBUP:
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  12. lindapoirier

    lindapoirier Registered Guest

    I love hats. You're collection is insanely fantastic. I have been looking for a boater for years. A "nice" one. I find the greatest thing about keeping hats well is to have the box.

    Are you a Jack White fan? He loves hats. You need to send your information pages to "his people". He will love to read them.

    Thanks for sharing. I hope you wear a hat every chance you get!!
  13. HatsEnough

    HatsEnough Registered Guest

    Yes, I do know who Jack White is and know he's a big "hat guy." Never thought about sending my pages to him. Maybe I'll look up his facebook page.

    As to wearing them, I wear a fedora every day. I don't wear the antique Stetson cowboy hats as some are delicate and all are too rare to play with much, but the fedoras I wear daily.

    Since we are at a time when fashion is nearly "do what you want" I find a fedora goes with any type of clothing now.

    I love the darn things (as you can guess) and those that know me personally are always looking for "the hat."
  14. Excellent!! Thank you.
    I sell a lot of fedoras and it is always gratifying to see some back up for my research.
    I have a 3 way Stetson hat box and I still have not put it up for sale after 20 years.
    It is just too special.
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  15. sewingmachinegirl

    sewingmachinegirl Administrator Staff Member

    Warner, thanks so much for sharing such a bounty of information with us all. I hope that we may see you here more often :sunshine:
  16. MissRita

    MissRita Registered Guest

    Fantastic Warner, thank you so much for sharing this info with us! Will definitely come in handy.
  17. HatsEnough

    HatsEnough Registered Guest

    Oohh, a Three Way hat box is somewhat rare. I have one now and sold one not long ago, but I've only seen maybe a dozen in all the years I've been buying hats. If it has the insides it's even better. (Mine does).

    Also a Stetson Stratoliner hat box is not that easy to find in good shape. But the most rare Stratoliner item of all is the little slip of paper that explained to customers why the Strat box was so narrow (you can see the paper on my site). That piece of paper is extreeeeemly rare. I've seen two of them in all these years.
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  18. vintagemerchant

    vintagemerchant Administrator Staff Member

    this is all so interesting!! it's a whole new world in itself!
  19. Rue_de_la_Paix

    Rue_de_la_Paix Trade Member

    Warner,

    OK, now THAT is interesting! Just by an odd coincidence, I am sitting here with my silver oval Stetson Stratoliner box right in front of me, sitting next to my computer. I have a circa 1953 Stratoliner and I never put it in the box because the box is too narrow and the hat touches the sides. The box and hat came to me years apart and I am not sure if they are the same date (I suspect the box is late 40s). So, why was the box so narrow and should I be storing my Stratoliner in there? Was it something about keeping the brim curled? Very interesting about the piece of paper.

    I am so glad you are here!
  20. foofoogal

    foofoogal Registered Guest

    Fabulous. My grandfathers hat was a huge part of my grandfather to me. Know several men hat wearers and will pass this on. Thank you.

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