Timeline on jacet - trying to do this right

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  1. EndlessAlley Trade Member

    I think I clicked the wrong thing I can't see anyone's reply so I resending original message with image. Maybe now it will work.
    http://forums.vintagefashionguild.org/images/smilies/hiya.gif

    Hi, this is my first time using this site, so thank you for helping me out. I have this lovely jacket. Label reads, Lee Baumann, 38th E. 8th st. New York, N.Y. In order to try to come up with a timeline, I contacted the NYC library system to see what dates Baumann had a storefront at this address. I did find dates for his store front at another location, but nothing at 38th St.

    The jacket has a rough weave and the gold design appears to be printed on the fabric. There is an art deco style clasp at the neckline, funky long shoulder pads and patch style pockets along the hem. Jacket appears to have never been worn - stitching for a "small" size label is still on the outside of jacket.

    Any ideas at to the era and estimate price for this piece?
    Thanks again for your help.
    Alice :hiya:
  2. pastperfect2 Trade Member

    (I moved my reply here so you can delete the other two posts)

    Oh that's cool! Are those hands?

    My first reaction is a late 30s dinner/evening jacket. Now that I analyze that, it's the art print, the shoulders, the bell sleeves, the clasp and it's placement.

    Hollis
  3. EndlessAlley Trade Member

    Thanks Hollis,
    I thought of hands also when I looked at the design. The deco clasp kinds of repeats the design as well.

    Is there anyway I can delete my first two posts????

    Alice
  4. thespectrum Trade Member

    Hi Alice!

    What a cool jacket!

    In the top right corner of your posts you should be able to see an EDIT link. Click on that & it will bring you to a page with a box for replies. Under that box should be choices with little boxes. There is one that says Delete this Message, just check that one.
  5. lkranieri Trade Member

    Do you have a photo of the label? It is a bit difficult to decipher the "38th E. 8th st." and because of the address in this 1985 ad, do you think what you are seeing may actually be "38 E. 8th st."
  6. EndlessAlley Trade Member

    label of jacket

    Hope this helps. I tried to edit out the th on the street, but couldn't figure out how to save the change???
  7. amandainvermont Trade Member

    This from a 2004 article - (Here)

    Lee Baumann, the specialized lingerie and dancewear shop at 49 E. Eighth St., is due to close after 50 years in business. Merchandise is being sold at slashed prices to diminish stock before the final closing date at the end of the month.

    It's a great looking top!
  8. vertugarde Registered Guest

    Oh, just seen this. I popped some advice on the other thread. No lining then.
  9. amandainvermont Trade Member

    Oops - I didn't see the other one either. Sorry for repeating the info.
  10. EndlessAlley Trade Member

    shoulder pad

    First time posting, so I wasn't sure about the difference in the two sites.

    I opened the seam of one shoulder pad and it's more of a wad, like a lot of fibers pressed to form. It was easy for me to separate these fibers. Hope this helps dating the jacket.
  11. Circa Vintage Administrator

    Interesting reading the history of this dress shop - I especially liked the article about why it was closing, and they tried to say that it wasn't true the area was unsafe or the pavement works would have affected sales. Ultimately most shops close because the sales are not sufficient to offset the costs and the downsides (like shoplifting).

    I would date your jacket as '40s. It's a great print.

    Nicole
  12. vertugarde Registered Guest

    Why is that CB seam not pressed flat? Hmm... I'd like to see the wadding. Is a bit it of peeping through at the shoulder?
  13. EndlessAlley Trade Member

    shoulder pad wadding

    here's the wadding for the shoulder pad. I hope there's enough detail in the image. There are thin layers of a cotton like material surrounded by a kind of netting.

    Thank you for helping me out on this.

    Alice
  14. joules Trade Member

    Looks like the sewing operator was moving too fast, and the CB was not opened flat, under the facing, as it should have been.

    But I love the jacket! Going to catch up on the various threads and the store history.

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