Jewelry help?

Monday Greetings!
I have a few more pieces I need to confirm:
I'll put 2 in here:
One is a necklace with glass pearls. It's short, like a choker, double strand, with cut crystal spacers, like in Victorian thru 30s jewelry. It's strung on bead chain. The connectors look like they were added later. I was thinking 20s or 30s?
Next a Lisner bracelet. It's marked "Lisner" without the copyright. Since they were copy righted around 1955, I was thinking that because Victorian look had a resurgence in the 40s, that it's 40s.
Many pics. Thanks in advance!

 

Thank you Linn. =-)

 

Both are so pretty. The first reminds me of Christmas!

 

I agree with Linn's dating--50s on both. The Lisner is lovely!

 

Linn, you are right on the money with your dating!

 

May I keep going with more? I'm tempted to write an thread called "I'm BAAA-aack"...but I hesitate to go there. =-P
OK, the net thing I want to confirm is this brooch. Top hat & cane motif. Silvertone with prong-set rhinestones. Looks like unsigned Pell. I'm thinking 40s.
The next item is a crystal necklace. It's on the shorter side, this a sterling filigree insert clasp. The crystals are unique in that they are flattened bi-cone shapes. My first thought was Edwardian (worn with a big fancy ballgown) but then I think 30s is another possibility. Pics added. If no one sees this, I'll just start that other thread.

 

Cute top hat pin! The cut crystal is nice, too, but I don't think it's Edwardian...possibly 1940's. I've had many of these and some are even strung on fine metal chain. They have maintained their popularity. In the 1950's and '60's it became popular to do these crystal pieces with AB coating for more sparkle.

 

What Bonnie said!

 

I forgot to mention that the crystals are strung on string. These crystals are not Aurora, they are clear.

 

I think I have my answer on the beads. I am so used to looking online for info that I forget all the books I have! The photo is not good because it was small but check this photo. It's from "100 Years of Collectible Jewelry", page 96. It's referenced as "Cut crystals, rondell type (I called them flat bi-cones!), colorless quartz, Bohemian, 1925. Seeing if anyone agrees:

 

The crystals just don't have that 1920's look to me, but of course, I love to see, feel and smell jewelry to make the best observations!

 

I thought might be helpful.

 

I'm glad someone said it first. I debated mentioning this and am glad that MJ has. Sunny, that is a lovely book, but about half of what's in that particular title is inaccurate. It was published long ago, and although it has been revised, there is so much more known now.

There is such a plethora of factors when it comes to dating jewelry, as with all things.

 

The beads are graduated. Most are 8mm wide, the biggest is more like 10-12mm in height. It really does look like it was re-strung (on string). The second book page photo is from a book called "All That Glitters".

 

Linn, I couldn't agree with you more and value your opinion highly when it comes to jewelry! By, the way, did you get to Rhode Island last month for the convention? I had really hoped to go, but just couldn't make it work out. I haven't been since everything changed to CJCI, but have heard many good things!

 

I love the "smell" thing. I have a good nose. (It was tested once!) I need to learn more about that.
Linn, I really need to be educated as to why you feel the top hat brooch is possibly newer than 70s. I know you would need to see it, but the chatons are all prong-set and some are very mildly faded. Wasn't this motif was popular in the 40s & 50s?: Night Life, tap dancing, cabarets, (and I hate to mention it but) Minstrel shows? Maybe there is something about the back of it that had a detail you identified as a clue to it being newer. That's what I need to learn about.