Original by Rudolph _____? Dress

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  1. DeCoDiVa

    DeCoDiVa Registered Guest

    I have visited several web sites that have posted as having the key words.."original by Rudolph" but when there. I see no signs of the piece I am looking for. I have a full skirted taffeta dress, black(so hard to photograph) no size label or content label, but the designer label hand stitched below waistline. Zipper is black metal"Conmar". Dress was represented to me as 80s.. but I think to myself. "NOT"
    the seams are full 5/8, the dress hem is a generous 3 inches with seam binding.. the tulle 3 tiered slip has horsehair hem and a separate waistband grosgrain ribbon hands-stitched to waist seam WITH hook & eye fasteners.
    I was trying to do a web-search for the designer but the only lead I could find is the possible ...Rudolph Moshammer.
    I have to photograph later it's raining here now.:damnit:
     
  2. Midge

    Midge Trade Member

    My gut says it's probably not by Rudolf Moshammer (no idea if you know who he was) as it sounds somehow not like something by him, and I'd say chances of finding anything by him on your side of the Atlantic are pretty slim *g*...

    Karin
     
  3. DeCoDiVa

    DeCoDiVa Registered Guest

    ~Jonathan I was hoping you'd answer RM was German right?

    ~Midge (you doll) I know one in a million .. right? I couldn't stand it I took pix with a flash here goes..

    ..the label
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    ...the inside at waist band. which is side closure...
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    ..the v-neck top draped over full circle skirt! the lines on the dress skirt and top are TUCKED and machine sewn!! 1/4 inch a part tucks
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    ALL ADVICE AND INPUT IS APPRECIATED
    :sunshine::bouncy:
     
  4. thespectrum

    thespectrum Administrator Staff Member

    It's definitely 50s, as it sounded from your description.
     
  5. DeCoDiVa

    DeCoDiVa Registered Guest

    SILK covered BEADs

    ...strung together with jet black glass beads. over two of the three tiers of skirt AND something odd. One of the black tulle petticoat panels in the lower tier is red. I though it might be faded but it is the whole panel..properly cut and sewn.
     
  6. Midge

    Midge Trade Member

    Interesting... I had thought it sounded vintage. Interesting though that Rudolf is spelled with an "f" - which is more German.

    Just checking as I wasn't sure - Moshammer wrote his name with "ph". Yup, he was German, actually from Munich. A rather eccentric character, and very well-known. No society event in Munich (or Germany) without him. I admit he stuck more in my mind for his eccentricities and because of his turning up in magazines etc. regularly, than for his actual fashion designs...

    Karin
     
  7. DeCoDiVa

    DeCoDiVa Registered Guest

    Rudolf..gee right in front of my face and didn\'t see that!

    Thanks..
    did you see the dress? 50's? couture? the material is incredible. There are parts of the hem that need repair. The trim needs either pulled out totally/ reconstructed?

    Hmmm:icon_dante:
     
  8. pastperfect2

    pastperfect2 Trade Member

    I had a wonderful velvet dress with this label - 1950's and from an estate where all the clothes were good quality, American designers and purchased form American department stores.
    Here's mine:

    <img src=http://pastperfectvintage.com/pasttreasures/1950srudolf1.jpg>

    I wasn't able to find out too much except that all the dresses I could find online with this label were 1950s and fabulous.

    Hollis
     
  9. DeCoDiVa

    DeCoDiVa Registered Guest

    Now that I spelled it correctly

    Thanks for the post. Nice piece! I hadn't seen this label before and the internet searches didn't turn up anything beyond the German designer I referenced :duh2: before realizing I had the search incorrectly spelled. If you come across anything. Post Please! Thanks.:adore:
     
  10. MRudolf

    MRudolf Registered Guest

    This is really funny actually because we had my grandmother over for dinner tonight and we were talking about Rudolf gowns. The company was started by my great-grandfather Max Cory Rudolf after him and his wife immigrated to this country from Austria-Hungary (when that was still a country). They came through Ellis Island in the 1910's or 1920's, and started Rudolf Gowns. It was an upscale dress company in New York City on 5th Avenue. My grandfather, Charlie Rudolf, took over the business after WWII and ran it until he was forced to sell it when he became ill and my father and uncle were too young to take it over.

    How I ran across this post was because I was trying to search for any Rudolf dresses online to show my grandmother. She still has a collection of them and she also remembers a lot of the dresses I ran across online, even wearing some of the same ones.
    All of the dresses were handmade which is incredible. My grandmother still has an evening gown that is entirely black sequined which were each individually sowed on by hand.

    After my grandfather took over the business he was the first one to bring Hubert de Givenchy to America and he did a line of dresses for Rudolf Gowns.

    I hope this post is helpful. I've enjoyed looking around for old Rudolf gowns and am happy other people still get pleasure out of things my grandfather was a part of.
     
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  11. pastperfect2

    pastperfect2 Trade Member

    Thank you so much! We have been wondering about this company.

    Hollis
     
  12. Beehive Vintage Goods

    Beehive Vintage Goods Trade Member

    What a great story!! Glad you found the VFG and clued us in on your family's business history!!
     
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  13. vintagebaubles

    vintagebaubles Trade Member

    It's always wonderful to hear from a family member of someone we've heard about but don't know much about, as the history is so interesting. Thanks for posting!
     
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  14. fuzzylizzie

    fuzzylizzie Trade Member

    Super! DeCoDiVa, if you can do a clearer photo of the label, we've love to have it for the resource. If not, we can use Hollis's

    MRudolf, I'd love to use your history as well.

    Lizzie
     
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  15. VintageFray

    VintageFray Alumni

    Wow, how great to found out about the label from a relative! I'm sure I have one of these dresses, I'll have to dig it out. It's red taffeta, with a pleated skirt and a decorative bow on the bodice with a matching Bolero. So 1950s, so gorgeous. Thanks so much for sharing!
     
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  16. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing Administrator Staff Member

  17. cactusandcattails

    cactusandcattails Super Moderator Staff Member

    MRudolf, thank you so much for that info. Every Rudolf dress I have seen has been positively delicious. Here is one I sold a few years ago. Midnight Blue Silk Taffeta

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  18. vintagebaubles

    vintagebaubles Trade Member

    Brenda, swooning here over that dress.... Fabulous!
     
  19. foofoogal

    foofoogal Registered Guest

    So fabulous MRudolf.
    Does your family have any sketches or paperwork or photos?
    You should start a blog about him. People could post examples on it.
    I love the history of vintage and antiques and who made them.
     
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  20. pinky-a-gogo

    pinky-a-gogo Administrator Staff Member

    I agree! Every Rudolf dress I have had in the past was the best quality.

    The workmanship, fabric, details are always top notch.
    I'll post a few pics later on tonight!
     

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