20s shoes? Edwardian??? jacket

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The shoes have no markings that I can see. They are beaded velvet and leather. I assume 20s, am I correct?

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I photographed this jacket thinking it was 50s, but I couldn't help but change my mind with the type of detail and especially the cut of the sleeves. There is a slit on both sides of the neckline, as if a tie of some sort was threaded through. There are no fasteners. The fabric is unlined—cotton as best I can tell—and beyond slubby. (The photos are lousy, just took quick shots when I decided I must be in the wrong era!)

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Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 
I think 30s on the shoes, maybe cuspers. And you may be right on the jacket, certainly has a deco line!! The sleeves look more 20s than 50s.....

Those shoes are amazing!
Ang
 
Thanks Ang, you have some rather amazing shoes yourself!! (just saw your post, and somehow managed to get up off the floor again...)
 
I think your pink coat is from a set - it most probably had a matching dress with it and I would think its mid 1930s. The shoes... hmmmm.... They are not older than the mid 1930s but I think they are more likely newer because they are made for Western export in the Malacca straights (Indonesia/Malaysia.) That type of beadwork is typical of that region. The local style are mules with vamps of beaded velvet like that. The older styles from that region are squre toed and embroidered but by the 1930s they are making beaded mules instead. The heel on these shoes and the beige colour are not typical 1930s, which is why I think these might be late 1950s or early 1960s but its hard to tell.
 
That's terribly interesting!

The woman from whom I got these shoes is probably in her late 70s and said she got these in 1975. She said something like "I don't know if they are 20s, but they have that look." She has been a vintage clothing dealer for a very long time, and her statement implied something to me. I guess you have the answer Jonathan. They are certainly aged in a way that looks older to me.

Glad to know a bit more about the jacket, especially about how it might have been used. I will try to shoot photos that have the right feeling now.
 
Those shoes are beautiful, and perplexing. It is a 20s sort of style, but I'm getting a much later feel on them too, especially with that chunky heel. I've seen 30s dance shoes that were made with a similar lower heel.

Thinking aloud here - fancy beading like that would probably have been considered appropriate for 'evening' wear in the 20s/30s, and they certainly wouldn't have had evening shoes in beige leather at that time. Dress codes for day and night time were pretty well defined.

I'm treading carefully because I'm definitely not a shoe expert like Jonathan, but I spent the best part of five years researching interwar fashions so this is a period I'm familiar with!

A peep at the insole label might help . . .

That coat is gorgeous too - definitely classic 30s with Deco sunray styling details - and I can just see it paired with a smart little summer dress and some white pierced leather shoes! :)

Sarah
 
Hi Sarah! Thank you for the visual reference for my (future) photos of the jacket!

All you are saying about the shoes makes great sense. There is no labeling, and the insoles are kind of rough:

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Other than the lovely beading, they are slightly crudely made (like slightly off-straight lines of stitching).
 
They are truly spectacular shoes, Maggie, and maybe if they were made in the far East as Jonathan suggests, the finish wouldn't be quite as immaculate as US/European shoes.

And as you say, they do look 'aged' enough to be properly old! I'm not sure what to think now!

vertugarde - wow, those golden carp shoes are wild! A very similar heel too . . .

Sarah
 
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