Authenticate/date YSL and Lanvin ties

[saara]

Hiya,

I don’t know anything about neck ties. Are these real and approx what years? Bought from an estate sale so I’m assuming older. There’s no material tags so I started wondering if they are even real. Thank you so much for any advice!

 

[The Vintage Vendeuse]

Hi! Per forum rules, we do not authenticate items.
Hopefully someone will be along soon to help with dating them.

 

[The Vintage Merchant]

how wide are the blades? that might help with dating..

generally speaking foulard prints and small paisleys are iconic design elements, but were particularly popular in the 1970s into the 1980s...foulards even in to the 1960s. blade width might help, though...

 

[FloTang]

Hello saara, for the YSL, I would say it's late 90's- early 00's ties. Especially for the second one it looks like a 90's print. But not sure.
This looks like the black tag used on YSL clothes at this period.
But there was black tag earlier too...

And in the 80's early 90's there was the blue square :

It would be interesting to see the logos printed on the back of the tie as well


For example this is 70's :

 

[FloTang]

Maybe i was totally wrong in my previous post because WPL 2555 on Lanvin ties refers to the wholesaler and manufacturer Schoenfeld neckwear company, active in a building of Seattle until 1993 ("Fashion Craft building").