Can ya'll please help me with this bedspread?

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Can ya\'ll please help me with this bedspread?

Hello again, I know this is not clothing but I am hoping you all will be able to help me with this. It was given to me awhile ago but I did not and still do not anything about it.

Would you be able to tell the fabric type, the lace pattern, dating, or anything else important to provide when listing?

The measurements are 67"x 98"

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I sincerely appreciate you all. Thank you, Caryn
 
Hi,

I am not an authority on these, although I used to sell many of them back in the 1990s. It appears to be Filet Lace, cotton, and may have been made by Quaker Lace Co. of the USA. Lace patterns were used for decades and decades, and some of the same patterns were used for over 150 years, so identifying an exact name I cannot do. Ribbons and Roses sounds good!

Is the edge a turned under hem or is it serged? That will help to narrow the dating somewhat. My guess just from the photos is 1910s to 1930s.

Is certainly is beautiful.

Barbara
 
Hi Barbara, I know very little about sewing technique and the thread matches the lace so it is hard to tell if it is serged but I think it is serged. I took some photos with flash on and off so I could show you.

I was also given a smaller doile. I am not sure whether it is supposed to go on the top of a couch or on a table.

Let me show you photos of both and maybe you and/or others can get a clue from both and maybe tell me about both.

With and without flash

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and the doile

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Thank you, Caryn
 
I don't know what the lace is called but I think it's a table cloth or table runner- not a bedspread. The "doily" is called a dresser scarf. It was used on a dresser and vanity items were placed on top of it.
 
Hi Linn, I think I was thinking of a doily? I will call that a dresser scarf now. I just noticed in the photos that it has butterflies on it. That's cool.

Isn't the one that I thought was a bedspread too big to be a table runner? Maybe it is just to big for my table?

Thank you, Caryn
 
Sorry I spelled it wrong. It's "doily." The larger piece could be a table cloth - it might be too big to be a runner, but I don't think it's a bed cover.
 
I gotch'ya. If that is correct would I be correct to say this was a banquet size table cloth?

The pattern in the center is too big to fit on the top of a twin bed and the sides hang over the bed but do not hit the floor.

I think I would rather it be a large table cloth than a small bed cover. ;)

Thank you, Caryn
 
If the pattern on the top is too large for a twin bed it might be for a full sized bed if it is a bed cover.

Lace bedspreads were sometimes placed over another heavier cotton, satin, or silk bedspread of a matching or contrasting solid color - and sometimes dust ruffles were used to add length to the sides and bottom. So the lace might not necessarily reach the floor.
 
I think you definitely have a lovely lace tablecloth! Dating these is difficult, as Barbara notes, but I have a couple of similar ones (not as fine as yours), and they are 30s or 40s. Yours could be earlier, though, of course.

I "think" that in a modern tablecloth, the width would be more like 72" instead of 67". But, like mentioned above with the bedspreads, I think people would put these over a solid tablecloth when they actually ate on it! We use a plain solid tablecloth with placemats on a daily basis, but when on special occasions, we use a "dressier" solid table cloth with the lace one over top of that.

It is a really beautiful piece!
 
I agree that it's a table cloth rather than a bedspread - my step mother had one of these on her dining table, under a piece of glass. It's a lovely old fashioned touch. I haven't seen one that has serged edges though, that suggests to me that it's more modern.

It's awfully white for a cloth of 70 years plus too, but as for fabric composition, I recommend a burn test.

The dresser scarf looks like an imitation battenburg lace design.

Nicole
 
Good morning, good afternoon, or good evening depending on where you are and when you read this,

All sides are scalloped so per the consensus starting with Linn it must be a tablecloth. :)

Nicole, I cut a few hanging threads off of each. Both were not-self extinguishing. The doily flame was orange, had grey and black lacey lash, and smelled like paper. The tablecloth thread burned very fast and there was just a little black ash and it smelled like paper. I love the burning paper scent.

How much more modern were you thinking Nicole?

The source was elderly and the stuff was her moms.

The information has been great so far. Maybe Barbara will come back and share her dating thoughts based on the serging.

Or anyone else?

Thanks, Caryn
 
I don't think the serged finish is necessarily an indication of the tablecloth's age. Serger sewing machines were in use long ago... I've just checked my lace tablecloth (which I know to date to at least the 40s) and the edges are finished like this one. However, there is an applied trim on mine over the edge finish, so that you don't see that on the "right" side. I have a linen tablecloth of similar age, and as in many from then, two edges are just the selvedge edges, and the other two are very narrow hemmed edges.

I suspect the lace ones were finished like this to avoid raveling....
 
I think the large piece is actually for a single or twin bed. If it were a tablecloth it does not make sense for it to not have the top motif repeat on the other side.

The top motif would be the part that would be over the pillow area.

They did generally use a rayon or silk covering that would be underneath and longer to cover the side of the bed.
 
Originally posted by poppysvintageclothing
I think the large piece is actually for a single or twin bed. If it were a tablecloth it does not make sense for it to not have the top motif repeat on the other side.

The top motif would be the part that would be over the pillow area.

They did generally use a rayon or silk covering that would be underneath and longer to cover the side of the bed.
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I agree with Poppy - because of the placement of the two motifs, it is a bedspread / coverlet.
 
Poppy, Catseye, Are the motifs the designs in the center? Do I have this upside down. Which part would go over the pillow?
and is a full size bed larger than a twin?

If you tell me which part you think should go over the pillow I will photograph this on both a twin size bed and a table and show you all after.

After what Poppy and Catseye said; I noticed that the center designs would not be evenly distributed on a table.

Thank you, Caryn
 
Caryn -

Take a look at this listing which shows a bedspread with two motifs and it's placement on a bed.

http://www.rubylane.com /item/460150-1567/Ornate-Vintage-Lace-Bedspread-w

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Yes, a full size bed is larger than a twin -

Mattress Sizes

Twin--39 x 75 inches (or 99 x 190 cm)
X-Long Twin--39 x 80 inches (99 x 203 cm)
Full--54 x 75 inches (137 x 190 cm)
Queen--60 x 80 inches (or 153 x 203 cm)
King--76 x 80 inches (or 198 x 203 cm)
California King--72 x 84 inches (or 182 x 213 cm)
 
Wow Catseye, You are right! I think mine is for a full size bed but I only have twins and kings in my house. I need to figure out how to take pictures to show it properly so that the motifs show the way they are supposed.

I know you all get told this all the time but let me tell you again..you all are amazing!!

When I get figured out what bed to take photos on I will post them here so ya'll can see.

Thank you, Caryn
 
By golly, I never noticed the motif that runs crosswise across the top as not being repeated on the bottom! So, I totally agree that it's a cover that would go over a bedspread. And that reinforces my feeling that this is older rather than newer.... I don't think that particular treatment has been used in this particular form for awhile. The newer bed covers I see are not as delicate or lacy like this one.
 
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