Could anyone tell me if this could be a chanel bag as well as the period is was made in
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Circa Vintage Clothing
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We can't authenticate items here - see the forum terms and rules - you need to take it to a Chanel appraiser for that, but the flattened shape of the "C" logo sewn into the interior suggests this is a bag that wishes to give the impression of being a Chanel rather than an actual Chanel which would take care to shape the logo correctly.
prulleke
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Ok, thats what I thought, any idea of the period? Is this snake or crocodile?? I have another question, there are some very fine also snake and crocodile small bags under the label Rogier Gallet, I know they have been into perfume etc but can only find one example of a bag under this label online, do you know anything about the house of Rogier Gallet and when they were make bags??
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If you inspect the damaged area, you should be able to tell if it's leather, vinyl or an exotic skin - you'll find information about skins in the VFG Fur and Skin Resource.
The bag is looking sad and worn, if it was cleaned up it would look a lot better but at the moment I doubt it's an expensive, quality product.
The bag is looking sad and worn, if it was cleaned up it would look a lot better but at the moment I doubt it's an expensive, quality product.
The pattern is intended to look like alligator however I do not think it is genuine alligator. I can see where either some of the imprint has lifted or faded in the upper back right side of the center pocket. I suspect it's vinyl however as Nicole was saying you can tell from the damaged areas if it is real leather. If it is real the damaged area should feel like soft suede or skin.
prulleke
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I have another question regarding fur , I need to know the condition this chinchilla fur coat is in, it has no pelting or felting or bald patches, some of the seams need fixing, glueing??? If you could tell me what you think I have attached pics, appearantly there are some things to look out for and i have been told that Chinchilla is a rather delicate fur to look after
From what I can see the fur has yellowed from oxidation. If some of the skin seams have separated that would be a result of the skin weakening and/or drying out. I would only be able to tell the condition of the skin if I could look at and feel the skin underneath. It would be best to take the fur to a furrier locally to determine whether the skins are in good enough condition to repair. The oxidation though is there to stay.
prulleke
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Hi Caryn, thanks for your advise, I have a few more questions fur related, a furrer in Australia ?, I wouldn't know where to look, its winter but summer here.
OK, in the collection there is a leopard skin designer coat and hot pants, I hate to think that the animal died for nothing so I was thinking due to the prohibition of selling such skins would there be a place in the world that would welcome such thing to its collection, like a fur museum or fashion museum or anything else you can think of
OK, in the collection there is a leopard skin designer coat and hot pants, I hate to think that the animal died for nothing so I was thinking due to the prohibition of selling such skins would there be a place in the world that would welcome such thing to its collection, like a fur museum or fashion museum or anything else you can think of
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Prulleke, there are furriers in Australia, although you might need to go to Sydney or Brisbane - vintage furs are problematic in Australia because of the climate. They need to be stored properly at the end of winter and I find that they rarely are, so I agree with Caryn that seeking expert advice is a good idea. Try google.
Regarding your leopard, first check that it is leopard and not a similar fur that can be sold - see the fur resource for pics and comparisons. If you want to donate, consider the Powerhouse or another museum that has a costume collection. Note that they receive a lot of donations and have limited resources but it's worth a shot.
Also, if you know the provenance there may be a local museum related to where the person lived or grew up that could add it to their collection.
Regarding your leopard, first check that it is leopard and not a similar fur that can be sold - see the fur resource for pics and comparisons. If you want to donate, consider the Powerhouse or another museum that has a costume collection. Note that they receive a lot of donations and have limited resources but it's worth a shot.
Also, if you know the provenance there may be a local museum related to where the person lived or grew up that could add it to their collection.
prulleke
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Ok, good advise there might be other places overseas as well, the coat came from London originally and its definitely real leopard ( unfortunately) have to follow up on those furriers in australia, I know I have a lot of questions but I am in the dark about so many things as the collection is huge, thank you all for this great service, if I can help in any way as a return service, i would gladly do so
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Be careful if you want to send the leopard overseas - it's illegal to export and may be seized by Customs. You can apply for permission from the Department of the Environment - see here but I doubt they'd supply it without a very good reason.
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I know you probably want to donate it to a costume or fashion museum, buutttt...if you are looking to give back to the animals you might look for a charity that accepts old furs to rehabilitate wild animals. We have one in the states called "coats for cubs". That's where my fur goes.
sewingmachinegirl
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Hi again Prulleke,
Jackson Furs in Brisbane is worth contacting about any fur queries
144 Adelaide St, Brisbane QLD 4000
(07) 3221 2066
Looks like Gayle provided you with a resource for a furrier that you can go to. I am in the US and am unaware of what furriers you have local to you elsewise. I also saw that Nicole recommended googling. You may also be able to search for local furriers through your local telephone directory if you have one and the directory may be available online as well.
Leopard is currently listed as an endangered species. It is not allowed to be traded except for certain circumstances like scientific study and in any case you need to apply for permitting to be allowed to offer it. Even if you want to donate it, gift it, or allow someone else to have it, whomever you give it to is supposed to account for receiving it so getting permission would be required.
If you decide you would like to pursue obtaining more information or a permit you can better be directed where and how to get it through the contact information listed within Australia's Cites link;
Leopard is currently listed as an endangered species. It is not allowed to be traded except for certain circumstances like scientific study and in any case you need to apply for permitting to be allowed to offer it. Even if you want to donate it, gift it, or allow someone else to have it, whomever you give it to is supposed to account for receiving it so getting permission would be required.
If you decide you would like to pursue obtaining more information or a permit you can better be directed where and how to get it through the contact information listed within Australia's Cites link;
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http://www.cites.org/eng/cms/index.php/component/cp/country/AU