Date Help on very Crewel Purse

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After seeing Gail's purse, it made me revisit this handbag

(keep in mind this is a larger purse - 12-13" long off the top of my head)

Orange Daisies say flower child hippie to me, but the style says earlier. The ornateness of the frame says older handbag - 30s/40s or earlier in many cases, but the color of it (frame) throws me off and tells me no. It has a band of flowers around the bottom edge, and perforations on the rest. It is on the gold end of a brassy color which throws me off and makes me think it is newer (well 60s or later not new new), and even though it is physically heavy like a regular brass frame, something about the feel about it.......maybe its all the perforations that throws me off...

I am good at dating leather and plastics...the tapestries and needlework throw me off a lot. It is possible that someone with a huge amount of skill made this. I don't see any visible stitches, except a small handful where the handbag meets the lining in the top. But then again, there could have been someone reattaching the lining later on.

BTW;;; previous owner states 50s, but as we know memories can be foggy. But maybe they are right too. I was just thrown for a loop on this one

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So are you all just as confused as I by now, or can you throw the cold bucket of water of reality at me and tell me the answer is under my nose?

Chris
 
The coloring is off though on this one I think to be really old.

Like i say, give me something Mod, or give me leather and wood and plastic and I do so much better! I really start doubting myself on some of these...
 
The white daisies look very much like the 'Lazy Daisy' embroidery stitch, which was very popularly used in table linen in the 30s/40s. (It is called Lazy, because each petal of the daisy is in fact just one l-o-n-g chain stitch.) The orange yellow green & white are fairly typical colours for that period too.

Difficult to say, as that style and design of embroidery has continued in use ever since - but I would hazard an 'edumakated' guess that the combination of the frame, the stitch, the design and the colours *does* make it the earlier date you thought of.
 
:hiya: I don't know if this link will help you or not. I stumbled upon it when I was cruising the net. It's the on-line catalog for an upcoming antique purse auction coming up on liveauctioneers.com

I haven't had a chance to look at all the lots yet :asleep: but it looks fun!!LiveAuctioneers.com Antique purse Auction

Good luck ~M

:violins: I've waiting all my internet life for this guy!!! Deb rules once again!!:kiss2:
 
It just looks too pristine and new!!!!

I have got to get used to that though, huh? That frame still really comfounds me. But i will trust you, Margaret.

Maureen, thanks for the link! I have started to peruse all the lovely things!

Chris
 
I think its 1960s mostly because of the colour choice and motif. Daisies were a big mid-late 60s motif. They were popular in the 40s too, but that colour selection of orange, yellow, white and avocado is just so 60s. ALso, there was a revival of crafting, like yarn embroidery in the 1960s. Also, the size of the bag makes sense for the 60s too. Those metal frames were still being made then. I have had some from the 60s with metal frames but they are usually larger than the earlier metal frames.
 
I don't know if I would call is flower child, I suspect the original wearer was a mature, conservative woman who was keeping up to date with the fashions but not a hippie!
I see it with a beige boucle suit and taupe low heeled shoes, hair slightly backcombed, probably ash blonde, and a smart silk scarf tied around her neck...
 
mmmmm sunset orange tupperware.... your mom and my mom had the same colour scheme... but so did Shirley Partridge, Samantha Stevens, and every other mom in the late 1960s!
 
Well the sadness is it WAS NOT the late 60s...it was the mid to late 70s and she was a bit behind the times. and the next house we moved to had brown and orange gingham print flowers on wallpaper. She still has the tupperware, though she replaced a few pieces with dark brown a few years later.

I inherited a few pieces of my great-grandmothers jadeite green 50s tupperware that I like much better. That is silly isn't it, saying that i "inherited tupperware"

Yikes!
 
Oh i have inherited everything from socks to moth-eaten purses from friends and family, all of it can be something, it just has to be put in the right situation.

If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research, would it?
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