Fifties prints? blouse and scarf..

scillas

Registered Guest
1)
A shirt/blouse – no labels, except a woven size label in the neck.
I think it is a cotton/rayon mix - a little too "fluid" to be all cotton. And a little too "stiff" to be all rayoyn. looks screen printed too me.
Does that make sense?

And should the ribbon be tied .eh... in a ribbon, for example?
I can sort of imagine it with..yes, I guess... cigarette pants, but curious to hear what the experts have to say about any of the thoughts mentioned above.

2)
Silk scarf – Looks fifties to me also, and screenprinted also, but not sure.
And could the print refer too?
could it be from celebrating the 5oth anniversary of the Entente Cordiale from 1904 and be from 1954?

more pics here:
http://www.silles.dk/test/ting/shirt.html

thanks so much for any enlightment!! :icon_dante:

Sille in Denmark
 
I'm not a smoker, but l love your blouse - what a fun print. Looks very 50s to me. I can see this with capris, a great summer look! No idea on the fabric or the printing method though, I don't have much experience with that kind of thing.

The scarf is very cute too - looks 50ish as well.

Karin
 
Thank you so much Karin and Senorita for the quick replies:

Senorita; I don't think it is linen though, it's too ... not–crinkly in the linen way, but more crinkly the rayon way, if you know what I mean.
Vague, I know ... But no fabric expert, and this just being my fabric-hunch.
(and sorry for my my limited vocabulary not english native-speaking...)

It says size 40 (european), but is somewhat smaller in contempoarary measures (bust like 100 cms).
Not in perfect shape, though, has some smaller holes/flaws. The seams are just regular seams, no serged or overlock seams as far as I can see.
Night here now, and therefore no daylight , but I can post photos of seams and size-label tomorrow.
Don't know about listing yet, but if you're still interested, I can let you know.

thanks again.
Sille
 
Adorable prints, both of them! The blouse could, I think, be 40s or very early 50s. The label photo might help.

Seems to me those tie bows were popular in the 40s (then, of course, again 2 or 3 decades later!). I generally tie these in a low bow--not right up around the neck, more down to the "V" in the neckline.

I agree that it could be linen or a linen blend--the weave looks a bit too fine for all linen, but the "body" as you describe it could very well apply to a fine linen. I am not sure whether rayon was being used in blends back that far, as it is today.
 
Hi again – and thank you, Anne. That makes sense with the ties/ribbons.

As for the dating: I thought about today that I think they both have a very post WW2 feeling about them don't they?
Something bright and optimistic and "let's-move-on"-ish
(not exatcly the feelings people attach to cigarettes nowadays, though) – at the same time, it puzzled me a bit that the shirt speaks something very american to me, but has the european size-label.
But maybe that's the thing: America - all things american (and american soldiers!) were so immensely popular here in the postwar days
– nylons, cigarettes and chewing gum, so maybe that's why it (to me, anyway) looks american and perhaps isn't - it could be america-inspired because americana was fashionable.
Still just speculating, but it could fit well with Anne placing it about 1950.

Put some pics of the hems at the bottom of this page:
http://www.silles.dk/test/ting/shirt2.html

And I'll attach a photo of the sizelabel - had to fix it there with tape – (very tiny and stubbornly turning the backside up ...)
 
Okay, your blouse could still be rayon , although the weave is not what we typically think of as 40s rayons i.e. cold silky rayons and rayon crepes. Still rayon could be woven in a myriad of ways - please correct me if I am wrong about this friends...
 
Originally posted by scillas

It says size 40 (european), but is somewhat smaller in contempoarary measures (bust like 100 cms).

No, that sounds about right, its not smaller. A size 40 would be about 40 inches around, and 100 cm = 39.4 inches. So a nice, medium size.
 
European sizes were different then, so to me it still makes sense that is 1950s or maybe even a teeny bit earlier. The old sewing magazines that I have from the 50s, and even the 60s Burda magazines usually start with the 38 being the smallest ladies' size, and that is more like a 36 or even a 34 today. I'm a size 34 (sometimes 36 - depends on the brand these days), and I have a 1950s summer dress that's a European size 38 (bought it in Helsinki) - in fact it only has a tiny little size label like this blouse, and nothing else.

Karin
 
Thank you both Karin and Joules.
You could be right about the more recent dating, Joules, but for the print it self, I really think it is older.
I thought at first it was homemade until I discovered the size-label.

Yes, tricky with the sizes... I think this would be something like between 38 and 40 (a 39!).
Karin, I already spotted from the posts in here that you make some great finds there in switzerland, and with your perfect-for-a-vintage-lover size it must be tempting to keep a lot of it! ;-) . I'm bigger, a 40-42, so I don't, but still buy the stuff – can't help it.

Someone mentioned it in here and I agree: There really should be some shrink-strecth device for bodies/feet when it comes to vintage...
(..still thinking of the 70es red patent leather Givenchy high Heels I met on portobello road in London this summer...just half a size kept us apart
:violins: 8and now I regret I didn't buy them anyway, could just have put them on a shelf to look at them...))

Well, that was really making a short story long, the short story just being: Thank so much for your replies! :-)
 
Joules, yes, that could be it, sort of a reprint – and good to know aboout the size-labels.
Thanks again
 
Sille, thanks a lot! I strictly buy vintage for myself, to wear it. Ok, I have more evening dresses than I need, but they all fit :hysterical:. But trust me, I try a lot of stuff too that's too big for me - or even too small! Zurich is a good place for such finds, yes, but not the "obvious" vintage shops (too expensive), but the charity shops. And I buy a lot in Vienna too - my best friend lives there. And whenever I travel, I keep an eye open for vintage and secondhand shops.

Karin
 
Back
Top