Hattie Carnegie Brooch & Bracelet Set, Any info?

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Large Brooch and bracelet with safety chain, both signed in script on a cartouche. Several stones missing on each. Any clues on dating & value? They are pretty but, I was very surprised at the quality of the pieces,they seemed cheap to me... glued in stones and very light weight. :help:
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Doesn't look like there is a copyright symbol on the cartouche, which would make the set pre-1955; early 50s by the style would be my guess.

Can't explain why it feels cheap--I don't know enough about Hattie Carnegie stuff (though I know some of it goes right through the roof!)

What are the dimensions (ie width of the bracelet, and diameter of the brooch)?

They sure are purdy...
 
I agree with Carrie on the dating although your pieces could be early '60's. I'm not sure they are a "set" although they certainly compliment each other. The design elements are a little bit different. The missing stones will be easy to replace.

Many manufacturers stopped setting stones by hand in the later '50's and stopped finishing the backs with a smooth finish then, too, to save costs. Not every comany used the © mark on every piece so while that's a good rule of thumb on dating to pre-1955, it's not set in stone. I just looked through my photos and I sold a Hattie Carnegie brooch that does not have the © mark on it that I believe is early '60's.

I still have this funky Hattie Carnegie brooch. It's japanned, and signed on a cartouche with no © mark.
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With these colors, I'd date mine to the late 1950's early '60's - which is when jappaned pieces were popular.


Hattie Carnegie died in 1956. Jewelry with her mark was still made as late as 1979. She didn't design any of the jewelry (or, so I understand the clothing either - although she did employ a lot of designers and did the design editing during her lifetime). I am pretty sure that the Hattie Carnegie comany did not manufacture jewelry. Jewelry was either made for the Hattie Carnegie company, or purchased from a jobber. It was made at various price points. Frank DeLizza (who made the jewelry we call Juliana) made some Hattie Carnegie pieces. I would be interested in seeing the back of the bracelet and the dimensions, also.

So to answer your question, KK - some Hattie Carnegie jewelry is more desireable and better made than others.

Probably more than anyone wanted to know!

Linn
 
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Girls, they measure bracelet width: 1.5 inches. Brooch: 2.5 inches. The bracelet is Faux prong set.
I see what you are referring to Linn, They may not be a set. They di come fom the same woman/estate and both have identical signatures. Bak looks nothing like a Julianna style to me.?
 
That's a very coveted Hattie Carnegie piece!!! If I found that one, it would stay with me! It was also done in an aqua colorway.

I meant to get back to KK a while earlier but have been gone most of the afternoon. I'd say '50's on your pieces from the nicely polished and finished backs, although, I have pieces with polished backs that are definitely '60's. When I said that D&E made some Hattie Carnegie, I didn't mean that they necessarily made yours, but that Hattie didn't make their own jewelry. You are correct that the backs (and the rest of the design) looks nothing like D&E aka Juliana.

There are a lot of Hattie collectors so I think you'll do well with them.

Aloha,

Linn
 
gosh, secondlooks, i could have NEVER parted with that
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Me, neither!

I love your brooch, too, Linn--great (and unusual!) colorway, and it certainly qualifies as funky! I was basing my assumption that a Hattie mark without a copyright symbol was post-55 on info in Julia Carroll's book, so it's great to know that that rule of thumb isn't invariable (at least in the case of Carnegie jewelry--maybe that's explained by the jewelry being outsourced to different manufacturers?) Your brooch sure ain't pre-55, after all!

KK, the fact that the stones are clear is definitely a plus for you--they'll be much easier to replace. Imagine if you had Linn's brooch with missing stones and had to match the colors!
 
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