help dating straw hat (I think men's)

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help dating straw hat (I think men\'s)

So, most of my recent hat acquisitions I feel like I have a good handle on dating-wise, but I'm finding this one a bit more challenging. First, I think it's a men's hat rather than a woman's hat? Second, it's a straw hat made in Italy (and from what I can tell from my searches it looks like there are/were a lot of straw hats made in Italy). There are no maker's tags, but the interior grosgrain ribbon says "Made in Italy." The feel of the straw is older, though not antique, and the other hats I got from the same estate were 50s-60s era. Would this potentially fit in that timeframe too?

And, thanks, everyone for the support and information. I really appreciate being able to come here for the items I find more challenging to date.
 
though this could be completely irrelevant, the band is stitched on exactly the same way as my 1920's/30's bowler and Fedora and the paper label is similar too, is it stitched on? have you looked for any other marks or labels under the band?
 
The size label is attached to the back of the ribbon band with what looks like some kind of adhesive. I can't see any other marks or labels under the band.
 
Hi,

I cannot get a good look at the actual shape of the hat, as the photo is a bit too large and does not show the top, but it looks like a pork pie shape, or perhaps a trilby, which are both similar to a stingy brim fedora but with a different crown tip (top). It is a man's hat, as you know by the size tag. I thought it was a fairly recently made woman's hat until I saw the size tag. The straw is not typical of most mens Italian straw hats, it has a different quality to it. If it did not say "made in Italy" I would have guessed it was made in the Phillipines or some Asian country as the softer, rougher, wider braid is more typical of some of those countries hats.

I can only guess at the age, but it looks like the sort worn by men in the 1950s and early 1960's. I doubt it is any older than 1950.

B
 
Thanks, Barbara--that's super helpful! Sorry the top was difficult to see. Here's a pic of the top of the hat. I looked up those terms (pork pie and trilby), and this looks like a pork pie to me.
 
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