Help dating two dresses please (2)

[kellyb]

Hi again
This is the second dress that I'm finding difficult to date, I am more confident that this one may be 40s or 50s, no labels, its a rayon velvet I think, it has some repair above and below the zip and again I think the zip might
possibly be a replacement as the zip seems later than the dress
Thanks again
Kelly

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

This one also looks early 40s to me.

 

[kellyb]

This one also looks early 40s to me.

Thank you!