Help ID a shirt and 2 Jacket labels

[Avantbo]

Going through my collection, I discovered a shirt, well made but not a label in sight.

It has never been worn, it's 60s I'm assuming, cotton print, super soft to touch and wear.

The cuffs are 3 button, on them is a motif of a pin up lass, artwork you might see on the noses of ww2 bombers.

These are stickers not applique, would shirt have been sold like this or have they been added later?

It smacks 60s Carnaby Street but sold anywhere.

Anyone any idea who might have made/sold it and what is the pattern design is called?

Next is 2 labels from 70s jackets, I can find no information on, does anyone recognize them?
Thanks

 

[bycinbyhand]

Do you happen to have photos of the actual garments, the jackets? I think both of them are 80s (maybe 90s on the 2nd jacket) not 70s. I say this because of the 1) manufacturing and exporting out of Romania at that time and 2) the way the fibers/cleaning instructions are stamped on the lining and the lining itself... what kind of fabric is the lining, do you think?

About the shirt... I am mystified by it... not sure the lady is original to the cuffs but maybe an appliqué. What do you think, actually holding it? The button hole finishing looks more modern too. Also, I am not sure I've seen such contrasting floral and deep blue fabrics on a 60s shirt. Maybe 70s but the collar looks more 90s or 00s doing 70s.

 

[Avantbo]

Do you happen to have photos of the actual garments, the jackets? I think both of them are 80s (maybe 90s on the 2nd jacket) not 70s. I say this because of the 1) manufacturing and exporting out of Romania at that time and 2) the way the fibers/cleaning instructions are stamped on the lining and the lining itself... what kind of fabric is the lining, do you think?

About the shirt... I am mystified by it... not sure the lady is original to the cuffs but maybe an appliqué. What do you think, actually holding it? The button hole finishing looks more modern too. Also, I am not sure I've seen such contrasting floral and deep blue fabrics on a 60s shirt. Maybe 70s but the collar looks more 90s or 00s doing 70s.

Hi,

Thanks for your reply, the shirt motifs are stickers and well stuck, the shirt is made of cotton and very soft, almost silk like in touch.

The cuff motifs are a mystery, I can't think why they would be added later or at all for that matter.

Floral design, ( is there another name for that pattern ? ), and the shirt chest size is small, 32 inch, it is a youth size but can't envisage an 80s, 90s young man able to wear it, which leads me to think it's 60s, 70s----but?

Below are images of the shirt cuff & jackets, 1 & 2 is the Jonathan jacket, 3 & 4 the Yorkers.

The Jonathan jacket is 60% wool and viscose lining and more 80s?

The Yorkers jacket is 60% Polyester, lining is nylon and 70s I think?

Both jackets are reasonable quality, coarse but made to last.

 

[retro ruth]

Floral design, ( is there another name for that pattern ? ),

I think it just about qualifies as a paisley, which is defined by curved teardrop-shaped motifs. So a floral paisley, perhaps.

 

[bycinbyhand]

Thanks for the extra photos...that helps...

1) cuffs look like a latter add on, in all honesty. Not sure why but the button hole finishing looks like a skilled homesewer's work. If that's the case - taking the cuffs as original out of the 'equation,' I would say late 60s or so for the shirt and the cuffs are a latter add on.

2) I'd call the floral design something like 'floral calico paisley.'

3) The Jonathan jacket is definitely more 80s.

4) The Yorkers jacket... that nylon lining was more used in the early 80s as I recall so I would go with 1980 to early 80s.

 

[retro ruth]

But the cuffs appear to match the button placket? To me that makes them much less likely to be a later addition. The pinups might have been added later, of course.

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

I have had a similar shirt to yours and I do believe it was from the 1990s. That very high collar with the different colored cuffs and button placket is what makes me state this.

 

[bycinbyhand]

But the cuffs appear to match the button placket? To me that makes them much less likely to be a later addition. The pinups might have been added later, of course.

It IS confusing me.

 

[bycinbyhand]

I have had a similar shirt to yours and I do believe it was from the 1990s. That very high collar with the different colored cuffs and button placket is what makes me state this.

Interesting... late 90s or so?

 

[Avantbo]

Thanks for the extra photos...that helps...

1) cuffs look like a latter add on, in all honesty. Not sure why but the button hole finishing looks like a skilled homesewer's work. If that's the case - taking the cuffs as original out of the 'equation,' I would say late 60s or so for the shirt and the cuffs are a latter add on.

2) I'd call the floral design something like 'floral calico paisley.'

3) The Jonathan jacket is definitely more 80s.

4) The Yorkers jacket... that nylon lining was more used in the early 80s as I recall so I would go with 1980 to early 80s.

Hello Brycin,

Thanks for the info.

I think I have solved the mystery as to the maker of the shirt, we did.

Floral Calico Paisley, thanks.

I started to0 reply yesterday to responses here but got distracted and ended up rummaging through my collection. It's rarely a fruitless exercise and found several items, one I had long forgotten about. One of the items is I believe directly connected to the shirt

I had been over that shirt, not a sign a label was ever attached, but something you wrote planted a worm about it being homemade by a skilful sewer.

See the images below.

Some years ago I employed a young lady from East Berlin, both her and her Mum had been students of the state GDR Institute for Clothing Culture, later to become the German Fashion Institute.

Both were skilfull tailors, both masters of tweeking or deconstructing old clothes and coming up with something new.

The young lady was with us for about 18 months during the 90s

The revamped flares are hers and the shirt made from scratch.

So shirt homemade, ( kind of ), and in the 90s but a 60s, 70s throwback I would say.

Although Poppy says the style may have made a reemergence in the 90s.

Thanks very much for your help.

 

[Avantbo]

But the cuffs appear to match the button placket? To me that makes them much less likely to be a later addition. The pinups might have been added later, of course.

Hello Ruth,

While looking up the etymology of the word " Placket ", Wicki was not my friend here, however the 2nd image down on their page, a shirt placket, I did a double take.

Put my Yorkers image and their image side by side, you will see what I mean.

You are correct, the shirt was made from new, nothing added later, ( stickers still a mystery and why ).

Thanks for your help.

 

[Avantbo]

I have had a similar shirt to yours and I do believe it was from the 1990s. That very high collar with the different colored cuffs and button placket is what makes me state this.

Thanks Poppy,

Much appreciated, shirt was probably made in the 90s.

 

[bycinbyhand]

Hello Brycin,

Thanks for the info.

I think I have solved the mystery as to the maker of the shirt, we did.

Floral Calico Paisley, thanks.

I started to0 reply yesterday to responses here but got distracted and ended up rummaging through my collection. It's rarely a fruitless exercise and found several items, one I had long forgotten about. One of the items is I believe directly connected to the shirt

I had been over that shirt, not a sign a label was ever attached, but something you wrote planted a worm about it being homemade by a skilful sewer.

See the images below.

Some years ago I employed a young lady from East Berlin, both her and her Mum had been students of the state GDR Institute for Clothing Culture, later to become the German Fashion Institute.

Both were skilfull tailors, both masters of tweeking or deconstructing old clothes and coming up with something new.

The young lady was with us for about 18 months during the 90s

The revamped flares are hers and the shirt made from scratch.

So shirt homemade, ( kind of ), and in the 90s but a 60s, 70s throwback I would say.

Although Poppy says the style may have made a reemergence in the 90s.

Thanks very much for your help.

AAAAAAAHHHHHH... then they used a vintage pattern in the 90s and voila! This makes so much sense!! What an interesting mystery!

BYCIN. : ))