Identifying and dating two fur coats

[violentpink]

I have an idea of what these may be but I'd like help confirming my suspicions and dating them. Let me know if more photos or details would be helpful.


I think this one has a body of muskrat with raccoon trim. It has elastic at the edge that goes around the buttons but they're broken.


I think this one is dyed skunk. It's one of the more dry, disheveled fur coats I've come across but I had to have it since I couldn't identify it right away (plus it was very cheap). On my way home, I thought about it and my best guess was dyed skunk. I was pleasantly surprised to find very similar coats online that were dyed skunk but I want to make sure.

A few more details about the 2nd coat... There are three closures (one is missing but I can tell where it was): at level with the collarbones, the bust, then a few inches below the bust but not quite waist. It kind of squares in after the last closure, sorry it may be hard to tell. There are also two sleeves (or linings?) per sleeve, the main one then another sleeve inside attached at the shoulders and free down the arm. I'm curious about what the label says as well, if you have any info I'd love to know.

Thank you for any help!

 

[furwise]

Hi there, You have done very well figuring out what your coats were on your own.

The first coat does have raccoon trim on the collar and hem and the body is muskrat that is either sheared or plucked. It looks like it dates to the 70s based on the shape, the style, the collar trim, the hem trim, and the buttons.

The second is skunk. Some skunk is actually all black but I see some oxidation where the black fur is showing some red in your photos so I do think yours is dyed.

The shape of the coat and the feature you described inside the sleeves which are wind cuffs are more fitting of the 50s however the label and the lining fabric is more fitting of the 40s.

Wind cuffs were a popular feature in 50s coats where the lining inside the sleeves were elasticized at the cuffs so when cold air blew in the air did not hit the arms.

The features that were popular in the 50s could have possibly been used in this coat in the late 40s or the label and the lining fabric could have been made in the 40s but used in the making of your skunk coat in the early 50s.

 

[violentpink]

Thank you so much, Furwise! I guess I must be getting better at identifying furs. I'll have to remember that sleeve info, I hadn't heard of wind cuffs before (glad I noted it to help id) - really interesting!