Interesting article on luxury shopping and the economy from the New York Times

Jonathan

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I suspect this trend will affect those of us who resell vintage - how I don't know, but I highly suspect the day of $800 Lilli Ann suits and Ceil Chapman cocktail dresses may be coming to a close...

Here is the article from New York Times:

March 12, 2009
For Spring Clothes, a Lost Season?
By STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM
ON a recent afternoon, Bergdorf Goodman was library-silent. At Saks Fifth Avenue, mannequins stood in for shoppers. In Henri Bendel, sales staff pounced on anyone who came through the doors. All along Fifth Avenue, the designer spring collections — an annual shopping ritual for the well-heeled and winter-weary — have largely arrived in stores.

No matter.

Bangles and handbags on slabs of marble and glass are going largely untouched, like artifacts in museums.

“Last year you’d run in here and say, ‘I need these shoes, they’re going to sell out,’ ” said Stacey Widlitz, a retailing analyst, as she turned over a strappy Fendi sandal in the Saks shoe department on Tuesday. “You felt an urgency. Now you come in and the store looks more like a museum than a department store and you think to yourself, I can wait.”

And why not? The spring collections are being sold at full price: $800 jeans, $1,500 blazers, $10,000 necklaces. If consumers learned anything during the Christmas shopping season, it was that if they sit on their wallets long enough, they could eventually snap up elite brands for fire-sale prices.

The mistletoe and tinsel are long gone, but consumers have yet to break the habit. And in the retailing game of chicken, the odds are in their favor.

February retail sales at Neiman Marcus, Saks and Nordstrom were some of the worst in the industry. Barneys New York, which does not publicly report monthly sales, is seriously ailing. Moreover, high-end stores order their spring merchandise months before the season arrives. So while they were able to cancel or return some orders as the economy plunged into recession last year, their inventory is not yet in line with weakened shopper demand.

“What’s flowing into stores this spring and summer reflects expectations from nine months ago, which were not low enough,” said Ms. Widlitz, who works for Pali Research in New York.

That means more discounts are on the way, though they will not be as stunning as those at Christmastime.

“That’s not going to happen again in our lifetime,” said Marshal Cohen, chief industry analyst for NPD Group, a retailing consultancy.

That is partly because luxury chains have managed to trim at least some of their inventory. It’s also because fashion companies were incensed during the holidays when their prestige labels were being sold at bargain-basement prices that competed with their own stores. Some designers said they are still smarting and deciding whether they will continue supplying certain chains.

Responding to the call for lower prices, designers are working with stores like Neiman Marcus to roll out items with mid-tier prices.

That couldn’t come a moment too soon for Neiman’s, which said Wednesday that it suffered a $509.2 million loss for the three months ending Jan. 31, compared with a profit of $44.3 million a year earlier, and that it plans to drive sales with additional promotions and other events.

While the spring discounts may not be as deep as last fall, analysts say they will come early. In high-end stores, merchandise usually stays on shelves at full price for 8 to 10 weeks before it is marked down. This season, however, analysts predict it will remain at full price for half that time.

Retailers, of course, loathe price cuts because they erode profits. But selling designer collections at full price in this economy requires more than a pretty face. It necessitates a battle plan.

At Saks, the plan is multipronged, beginning with the company’s spring advertisements. Historically they have included minimal text because the photographs of clothes, bags and shoes are meant to do the talking. This season, however, Saks is beefing up its copy to highlight the reasons why a product is special, or — to put it another way — why consumers might want to plunk down precious dollars during a recession.

For years, decadent consumer spending and free-flowing credit meant no luxury chain had to justify why a sweater cost more than a flight to Rome.

“We’ve definitely seen — I think everyone has seen — a drop-off in this idea of shopping for entertainment,” said Kimberly Grabel, Saks’s senior vice president for marketing. “People are shopping in a very focused way: What is it that they need?”

Saks’s other tactics include collaborating with its suppliers to introduce some lower-priced accessories and other items. It is also focusing on what is known as “clienteling,” or calling and sending e-mail messages to its best customers with ideas on how to spruce up their existing wardrobes rather than replacing them entirely. And a new women’s fashion area in the store called WEAR offers name-brand clothes at more affordable prices. A manifesto on the inside of the catalogue reads: “At a time when many of us are re-examining the more frivolous things in our lives, Saks has sought out items of authentic value.”

Kit Yarrow, a consumer psychologist in San Francisco, said affluent consumers are returning to an older way of shopping: buying one or maybe two exceptional pieces rather than a designer’s entire line. “That used to be the way people bought luxury items,” she said. “They didn’t buy the T-shirt from Armani. They bought the jacket.”

Retailing professionals are not in agreement about whether this economy has irrevocably changed consumer spending habits.

Burton M. Tansky, president and chief executive of Neiman Marcus, has said in telephone conferences with investors that it is too early to make such pronouncements. Some industry professionals disagree, though, saying consumers are clearly gravitating toward a simpler way of living that is in sync with the nation’s growing environmental sustainability movement.

“I feel really strongly that this is a permanent shift,” Ms. Yarrow said. “There really hasn’t been a time when we’ve been quite that frivolous in spending money. It’s a correction.”

Indeed, after years in negative territory, the national savings rate jumped to more than 3 percent during the holidays.

“Luxury is going to have to learn it’s for a very unique class of shopper,” said Mr. Cohen, of NPD Group.

He calls it the Rolls-Royce theory of retailing. “Pure luxury is not about price,” he said. “Does a person who’s buying a Rolls-Royce or a five-carat diamond ring start negotiating for price? The cachet, the image, the quality, the service — price is not the determining factor. It’s at the bottom of the list, if on it at all. Luxury is going to have to exist in a smaller space.”

After all, the “aspirational” shopper — the customer who could not afford designer brands without skipping meals and running up debt — has disappeared. For more than a decade, global brands like Louis Vuitton and Gucci rode to glory by selling this customer a taste of prestige — a $600 handbag instead of a $3,000 dress. Now that strategy is being severely tested.

“It’s not to say luxury is dead forever,” said Robert S. Drbul, a managing director at Barclays Capital Equity Research. “It will come back. But it may take a few quarters. It may take a year.”

He paused before continuing.

“It may take something longer than that.”
 
I dont know Jonathan. My feeling is while there may need to be some price adjustment on the vintage side, it is still a great value.

Luxury goods (new ones) were just terribly overpriced in the first place. Much as the housing bubble has burst so will many of these lux brands.

If you compare some designer dress of today with a well made vintage piece, the difference is clear. Vintage offers superior quality construction, materials, and of course unique style, these things are always desirable.
 
I agree with both to a degree. I've still been seeing some high ticket sales (granted, thats still under $500 for me!) and some multiple piece purchases with decent totals despite the recession. I think what the sellers of status symbol goods are seeing is that people are less inclined to buy a bag just because of the name as much as they they used to...I think buyers are looking for more bang for their buck and their starting to catch on to how the fashion industry works.

That said, did anyone see those Marie Antoinette shoes by Louboutin? At over $6000 a pair, only 36 pair made and all pre-sold.

http://tinyurl.com/bt8w2o

Those are crazy amazing. And yeah, only 36 people spent that but how many others would have? I don't think that high design/designer conscious crowd is that much affected by the recession as much as the wannabees who ran up their credit cards trying to be like Carrie Bradshaw.

Ang
 
I was always astonished at the HUNDREDS of luxurious clothing items I found here in podunk Porland that dated from the depth of the depression 1931-34....bias-cut silk velvet gowns, opera coats, floor length ermines, silk stockings and French undies by the ton, Deco diamonds in platinum. All this at a time of breadlines and cardboard Hoovervilles.
 
I agree that it all got a bit silly in the luxury market and we'll see a correction - hopefully a permanent correction, but I doubt it.

Here in the vintage market though, we're still offering great value for money and uniqueness - as well as the desirable qualities of sustainability and good quality. Even the best vintage retails for way below a similar new garment would sell for - and increasingly customers are getting over any dislike of the word "second hand".

Our sales are up and this is the quietest time of year for us. We've been run off our feet the last three Saturdays and no sign of any down turn. The best stock sells itself, I try to keep my prices reasonable but special things are always expensive and I find my customers appreciate clothing that's beautiful and looks good on them.

I expect the vintage clothing industry to do well out of this economic downturn, although the silly prices for particularly fashionable and in demand items may reduce a little, there will still be plenty of appreciative market for them.

Nicole
 
Originally posted by CircaVintageClothing

Here in the vintage market though, we're still offering great value for money and uniqueness - as well as the desirable qualities of sustainability and good quality. Even the best vintage retails for way below a similar new garment would sell for - and increasingly customers are getting over any dislike of the word "second hand".

Ditto that.

Originally posted by CircaVintageClothing
Our sales are up and this is the quietest time of year for us. We've been run off our feet the last three Saturdays and no sign of any down turn. The best stock sells itself, I try to keep my prices reasonable but special things are always expensive and I find my customers appreciate clothing that's beautiful and looks good on them.

I expect the vintage clothing industry to do well out of this economic downturn, although the silly prices for particularly fashionable and in demand items may reduce a little, there will still be plenty of appreciative market for them.

I have to say that I agree -- I find myself having nightmares because all I hear on the news is how bad the economy is going and I tend to see myself as tied to that -- but strangely, actual business hasn't felt much affected by it.
We've continued selling very well - in fact, sales have actually been increasing recently.
Weird - I know.
But, as I point out to my customers, these clothes have survived 25 - 80 years. I've bought things new at the mall and had them fall apart after 3 or 4 washings.
Seriously?
No comparison.
You can buy a casual vintage dress for $30-50 and have it last another 50 years - or you can spend the same and have it fall apart in the next year.
Which one has value?
 
Kristine - exactly.

Also, they keep reminding us about the Great Depression of the '30s. As vintage lovers we're all well aware of what people were wearing at that time and it was pretty good: classic, elegant yet simple garments of good quality fabric. To judge from the clothes, it's hard to believe that life was so grim for many, the clothes (like other things) seem to have been an escape for them, into a world of style and glamour.

For many people today Glamour = Vintage, so if we go down the same path, it can only be good.

Nicole
 
Kristine, I know about the nightmares from listening to the news.....even if I wasn't about to close on my house (Friday!), owning a business and counting on it as sole income when you hear day in and day out about stores closing, layoffs, people losing their homes....its terrifying! I keep hearing it but the shop is selling at a decent clip and the site is doing pretty well. So I either have to believe it will stay this way and do this
:lalala:
Or live in terror. I choose lala.

Ang
 
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