Lanvin Dress???

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Sprocket2004

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Hi
I just wondered if anyone out there could identify if this Lanvin label is too old for the dress. I bought it as I loved the colour and beadwork and was quite excited that it might be a Lanvin. I think the label is around 1945 but think the dress may be slightly earlier.
Thanks!

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The dress looks right for the period to me, but I'm a little suspicious of the label, it is thicker than the one in the label resource, (which is thin enough to see the folded corners through) and the embroidery on the figure's skirt appears more modern with those lines in it. Can you show a photo of the reverse of the label?
 
Hello,

Without having it in hand, it is difficult to assess if it is a real Lanvin. Can you tell us where is the label sewn to inside the dress? Is there hand sewing and any other Haute couture finishing evident? Tell us also about any closures. The color, if my monitor is reading it correctly, looks like a chartreuse or lemon-green which was a trending color in the later 1940s. The style looks late 40s to me also. What is the length of the dress? In the photos it looks to be mid calf, which sets it after WWII (unless it is full length for evening), so a date of circa 1946-1947 seems right. Of course, this is just a basic idea based on your 1 photo of the dress. The style and the beadwork also looks possibly mid 1930s, but I cannot tell more from the photo.

I think the label itself looks fine and a real Lanvin. I don't always base my dating only on the label.

It is a beautiful garment.
 
Many thanks for replying to my post.
I've taken a few more photos and here is some more info. The dress is long, so is most likely an evening gown. The label is sewn into the inside of the jacket, i've added a photo of the other side of the label. The jacket is a fantastic fit and it has a diamond panel under the armpit. There is evidence of hand stitching inside the dress, i'll add a photo in a bit. It seems that someone has added a zip at some stage in it's life, which looks later but I may be wrong.I've been looking through my book on Lanvin and the sequins seem quite similar to some of the photos in the book. They are almost stacked on top of each other. It's an amazing colour and the beads are blue. I haven't seen that many gowns from that period in such a great colour.
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Here are a couple more photos one of the zip and some of the hand stitching on the interior.
Yes it's a great colour. I may wear the jacket as it's a perfect fit.
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I am bothered by the shape or lack thereof in the bodice area of the dress for the late 40s or even early 50s. Is there any chance you can photograph this on a dress form or a person so we can see the fit? Honestly, that neckline and strap treatment almost look like a nightgown a or negligee of the period. Or a 60s dress.

Hollis
 
I had thought from your first photo that the embroidery was black glass bead work, not sequins. The sequins throw it off to me, they don't look like French sequins which is what I would think Lanvin would have used (if used at all for a pre 1950s dress). The sequins look as if sewn on in a string, and they should be individually hand sewn or sewn closer together on the "string" parts (check the inside stitching for evidence of hand sewing). And I agree the neckline and straps look almost 1960 ish. It no longer looks 1930s or even 1940s to me with that neckline and bust treatment. The pinked seams, would Lanvin have use those?

I am out of my element here on dating and authenticating this, but just wanted to comment on the sequins.
 
Many thanks for all the responses. I think this is a tricky one. I think there are elements of 60's design especially with the neckline and straps. I think i'll just have to enjoy it- whatever it is!
 
Yes the label is quite big. I've had another look at the dress and have noticed that the back of the dress has a sort of fish tail. It's straight on the front but the back has much more fabric with a bit of swing to it. Is this a late 40's style?
 
The only thing that looks 40s to me is the bolero jacket, with that removed, it looks like a 1960s chemise evening dress. Its too hard to tell without handling.
 
Yes without the bolero it does not resemble 1940's much anymore, it appears to have

Sprocket could you possibly get some photos of it modelled or on a mannequin/ dressmaker's form? I think it would help to see it's form as intended for wear.
 
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