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EndlessAlley

EndlessAlley

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Hi Everyone,

On the 15th I posted a blue jacket on two of VFG sites requesting information regarding "Timeline for Jacket"- first time posting - didn't know what I was doing, but learned a lot in the process!!!

I am so grateful for all your help & information, Those looking at the jacket suggested it might be from the 30's, 40's, 50's and even a vote for the 80's /90's.

I want to list the jacket on my Etsy site & I want to be as correct as possible in the listing information regarding the jacket. I had a friend look at the jacket, who sells a lot of vintage, and she thought 40's...So do I take the timeline that received the most votes and best reasoning and list the jacket as "probably 1940's for the following reasons....

How do you guys deal with something like this??? I welcome your suggestions.

Endlessly Shopping,
Alice
 
hi alice,

for those like me who didn't see the other thread/s, here's a link to the main one:

http://forums.vintagefashionguild.org/viewthread.php?tid=70867&page=1#pid697859

it's definitely not 80s or 90s. somewhere between 30s and 50s, no later than that. the earliest reference found was for 40s, so probably not 30s.

it looks early 50s to me. the cuffs, fabric, label, not large shoulder pads, and treatment around the bottom.
 
I have had times when it is hard to just pin a date down for sure. My advice - just be honest in your listing. Let the reader know that it is a great jacket (which is so true) but that it is a little hard to pin down to a distinct era and why. Share with them what you do "think" about the jacket. Rather than have someone get the jacket and disagree with your dating once they have in their hands, just be very honest in your listing about the extent of your knowledge.
 
Agree with the others - we're all in the same boat with dating, it's about piecing the puzzle together and going with the most likely date. For your jacket I said '40s but agree that it could go to the very early '50s - it's quite safe to give a timeline like that and buyers will appreciate that you requested opinions. Some items are harder to date than others.

When I first saw your jacket my thought was '80s but there are so many indicators that say it's much earlier and '80s fashion heavily borrowed from earlier eras.

Nicole
 
My initial impression of the jacket was very early 50s and I felt it had an "I Love Lucy" look about it and I actually wondered if it might not be a maternity jacket.

The only thing that threw me off this dating of it to be honest was the clasp that was used as that had an older look about it.
 
Three final questions and then I will move on and submit my next 40s??? item :)

1. Can I note in my description of the jacket that I consulted with the VFG???

2. Does anyone know what process was used to print the gold design on this jacket since it lays on top of the material like paint? Reminds me of a silkscreen process.

3. The fabric reminds me of silk linen blend. Any final thoughts on that?
 
if you'd like to know the composition, you might like to try a burn test. It's hard to tell from a photo, but it looks like a rayon blend, you could be right about linen but a test will help.

re: printing, I'm not sure you can tell if it's silk screened or anther sort of printing. Have you tried looking in the seams to see if there's any printing information?

Nicole
 
Something I do when I list something an item that I have gotten advice about here is put a statement in listing such as:

"A special thanks to the VFG forums for assistance with information about this jacket (dress, skirt, whatever)."

I have also seen other sellers make a similar note in listings. I just like to do that because often the info I am sharing with potential buyers is information/input I have received here. This is an amazing forum and want to always give credit where credit is due. I never directly quote anyone here or utilize names, etc. but always share that I got my information here.

Just my own thoughts on this topic of course. Not sure how everyone handles.
 
Hi Nicole,
I am familiar with burn tests, but have not tried one....l I'll look up the "how to do" and get out my matches this afternoon!!! I looked on the seams for info, as you suggested and the only thing I found was there is that one side that has about 3/4" of plain blue where the gold design ends.


And Msgrossmyer I really like your idea of "a special thanks to... is great way to handle this. I agree this is an amazing forum and deserves credit for all the wonderful info found here.

I feel happy!!! I am finally comfortable with listing this jacket. Now to go to my closet and find another puzzler - Maybe my little cotton 30's -40's dress or the Harvey Berin/Karen Stark. hhhmmm

Alice
 
NY Historical Society

Just received an email from the New York Historical Society (yes I do like to check around on this stuff) and their research showed Lee Baumann's opened the summer of 1940
 
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