mystery regarding label on vintage western shirt. H bar C ?

[Von Mathieson]

I have a vintage western shirt labeled H and C Ranchwear. It seems fairly old. The hem is and seams are cut with pinking shears. The emboidery is pretty on the outside but a little messy on the inside. The snaps are metal not pearl. I would like to date this shirt. I believe it is a women's shirt. Not sure though.

 

[joules]

Gosh, that is nice. I wonder if it's early Halpern and Christenfeld, just before it became H Bar C?

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

Great shirt! It certainly looks like H Bar C. Maybe they used this label for a very short time frame.
Your shirt looks 40s to me.

 

[joules]

That's my guess too Mary Jane; an interim label used in the 40s.

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

I have to say I love that soft pink coloring on this shirt!

 

[jauntyrooster]

Found a bit of info:

"In 1897 Samuel Christenfeld began making English-style riding breeches in Brooklyn, NY. In 1906 he formed a partnership with M. Halpern to become Halpern & Christenfeld, shortened to “H and C.” In the early 1930s the popularity of Hollywood Westerns gave rise to a demand for Western fashions and, in 1936, Halpern and Christenfeld decided to cash in on the craze and opened a store in Los Angeles. As part of their marketing, they changed the brand name to “H Bar C” to evoke a more cowboy image. Only a very few labels were produced that listed the Los Angeles store but still carried the old “H and C” name."

 

[joules]

That's what I figured.
Good sleuthing, Maureen.

I wonder where that store in L.A. was located?

 

[foofoogal]

To the original poster. I believe the hem is just out and needs to be sewn back.
Very nice shirt.

 

[Von Mathieson]

Thank you all for your responses. So excited to hear from everyone! Thank you for the sluthing, very interesting! Do you think it could be from the 30's then? Under the H and C Ranchwear it says, California styled. Then beneath that it says New York on one side and Los Angeles on the other. Also, I could be wrong but it doesn't look like it was ever hemmed. only cut and basted.

 

[The Vintage Merchant]

that's a fabulous shirt, VM! and i agree with you: some of the old western shirts were not hemmed. what a wonderful find: congratulations!

 

[joules]

Very true, about the lack of hemming. This is not unusual.

 

[jauntyrooster]

I am not an expert in western shirts by any stretch but doing a trademark search in TESS at USPTO.gov indicates that the "H Bar C Ranchwear" was logo was first used in commerce March 12, 1941. I would think your shirt would date before that first use date of the new logo.