Nipon Boutique Dress

I grabbed this because I love the waist treatment and it was giving me a 1980s doing ??s (30s, 40s, 50s?) vibe (I have seen on some D. O'Hara's that I LOVE!). I honestly didn't see label til I got home and now I am thinking it may be much more recent than 1980s or even 1990s. Does anyone know much about the Albert Nipon label? I know the tax evasion story, etc but I just can't seem to get a handle on labels. This multiple country size chart just seems very new to me.

Dress is gorgeous. It is pinned on manni but is probably closer to an modern 8 than a 12. Tried to lighten up waist detail so you can see - black is so hard to get pics of details.

I am thinking I am out of luck for vintage - your thoughts?

Thank you all! I appreciate!
Maureen

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"Wesley Snipes" Incarceration...now that is funny!

I have seen this label listed by other sellers as earlier - and the label is different - it isnt all caps.

Having said that - I see a lot of his listings that look dead wrong as far dating...and if I am noticing it, you have to be pretty far off! :)
 
It's looking awfully 80s to me.... I had a David Warren black dress with side ruching/draping and sleeves like that (eerily similar dress) that I bought in the mid to late 80s. I don't think it's 90s.

It is a very dramatic dress for this label (at least based on most of them I see)--love it!
 
That is strange, if you say the dress is probably closer to a modern size 8 - because the German size 42 was, as far as I know, never quite that small. Dress sizes have changed too over here - I'm a 34 to 36 (which corresponds to an 8), and in 50s or 60s patterns, my size is usually a 38 to 40, depending on the pattern. And this kind of sizing started only in the 1950s, as far as I'm aware. Pre-WWII, they had a wholly different sizing system.
Maybe they put in a wrong size label? The label certainly looks fairly modern to me.

Karin
 
Oops, I'll amend my opinion to add that it could be 90s--since I have in my closet a dress from the 90s that is again similar to yours. I wore that dress to my high school reunion in 1997, but I had had the dress for awhile. So, I'll still go with late 80s or into the mid 90s.

Sometimes higher-end formal clothing ran small (whereas I've found that higher-end everyday wear tends to run larger--go figure), but you might be talking a 12 that runs more like a 10, not generally a 12 that fits like an 8. What is the waist measurement? That might be a good guide, as the style of the top could fit "blousier" than shown, or could fit as shown.
 
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