Pendleton "Lounge" or 60s?

[RustySpurVintage]

Hi. I've collected a few vintage Pendleton shirts and am familiar with them, but this one stumps me. It has a loop collar (50s or 60s) and FOUR front pockets (70s lounge?) and a small collar (60s?). I can't place the decade. Anyone have a guess?

 

[The Vintage Merchant]

hi adam!

its sort of hard to tell from that photo, but it appears to me to have those deep armseyes..indicating late 80s/early 90s styling; a lot of manufacturers used "retro" details like loops, at that time, too.

can you add a photo of the label?

 

[Pinkcoke]

I only know that four front pockets was a 60's feature on jackets in general.

 

[RustySpurVintage]

Yeah. Sorry. That pic is terrible. How about these?

 

[cactusandcattails]

I have seen XL sizing in shirts from the 40s

This Pendleton does not have the wool mark, that I can see anyway, so I think it is earlier. Early 60 maybe?

From the label resource

http://vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/pendleton/

http://vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/woolmark/

 

[RustySpurVintage]

You're right. No "Wool" mark. So that indicates it is probably pre-1971. (Side note...I see some Pendleton shirts on eBay listed as "1950s" when they clearly have the wool mark on the label. Hmm....) So....um....is there anyway to know the decade from other features of the shirt? Is it "gabardine" perhaps? (Would help if I could identify gabardine.)

 

[cactusandcattails]

I cant tell if it is gabardine from the pic but check out the VFG fabric resource

http://vintagefashionguild.org/fabric-resource-guide-terms-of-use/

You will use it often!

 

[The Vintage Merchant]

yep, i agree w/Brenda...seeing your newer photos, it does look older. but it doesn't look like gabardine, i don't think. it looks like a plain weave, to me. you'll see teeny tiny diagonals in the weave of a true gab.

 

[RustySpurVintage]

Thanks for the resource. It doesn't look like it has diagonals in the weave. They look like very tiny (like quantum) squares. The closest picture I can find on the fabric resource page is flannel.

 

[The Vintage Merchant]

i'm pretty sure it's just a plain weave. flannel would have a fuzzy surface on one side, is it fuzzy? or smooth?

 

[RustySpurVintage]

Pretty smooth.

 

[Circa Vintage Clothing]

I agree that it's a wool flannel - in a knockout colour!

 

[RustySpurVintage]

Cool cool. So what do you think the decade would be? I think so far early 60s is what I've heard people leaning towards.

 

[Circa Vintage Clothing]

I'm not familiar with the Pendleton brand but my feeling is that it was more modern, as Mary says the armscyes are rather deep suggesting late '80s or '90s.

Are there any other labels at all?

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

It actually looks older to me with those front lower pockets and the very small collar...I would go with early 60s on this one.
It's a kind of jacket shirt styling.

 

[RustySpurVintage]

Unfortunately, no other labels. (Aside from an old dry cleaning tag.)

 

[RustySpurVintage]

I took it to a dry cleaner. They referred me to the "big guy" who has been in the business for 40 years. He took one look at it and said "looks like early 60s." I accidentally put a few water marks on it while ironing it. Still learning. He's going to get them out for me. Thanks to everyone for your help! I know it would be a lot easier if you could see the garment in person, but you have all been super helpful and wonderful! I really appreciate it!

 

[fuzzylizzie]

It's 1964 0r older. Pendleton was one of the first US makers to use the Woolmark, which they began using in mid 1964. It's not always on modern things, but the lack of the Woolmark on this label pretty much confirms it is late 1950s or early 60s. And it is wool flannel.