Question on bed jacket sizing

plousia

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I have this 50s Vanity Fair quilted bed jacket. The chest size is really large, 48". I'm wondering if these were meant to be a one-size-fits-all type of deal, or if this is just a larger size? There is no size label. Kind of a silly question but I'm not familiar with this type of garment and am not sure how to describe the size. Thanks in advance.

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lucky lucky you! it's hard to find larger sizes in most vintage lingerie!

no, normally not one-size-fits-all back then, that's a more modern concept. Is it quilted nylon? does it have polyester lace trim, or by any chance is it cotton? It looks more early 60s to me, than 50s, but if it's cotton, then more likely earlier.

I would simply list it as XL XXL B48. If it's not a raglan cut sleeve, I would include the shoulder measurement for sure, too.

it's very cute, you should do well with this beauty! :)
 
OK good to know, thanks! It is quilted nylon. I am not sure on the lace; based on feel, I *think* it might be cotton, but is there a better way to tell other than a burn test?

I tried getting a shoulder measurement, but it is indeed a raglan cut.

Thanks very much for the suggestion on the listing size, I had listed it just as bust 48, but will include the letter sizes as well.

Thanks again!
 
Oh I was also wondering if it might be a maternity jacket, as it's a swing cut with the bottom measuring about 52". Would that have been a thing, or is that just the style?
 
I would place this even later - like later 60s - 70s. If the lace is polyester, it could even be 80s. Also, especially when a piece could fit a larger size, but stylistically would have been cut that way, such as this piece, I always put the armscye and bicep measurements. It is really disappointing to think something would fit, and should, but the arms are too narrow, or the arm hole is not as accommodating as the raglan style suggests. I think those measurements will reveal if it is actually a volup item.
 
The armscye and bicep measurements are pretty big: 13" and 16.5" (although it's a kimono sleeve so is wide anyway). The 50s dating was going on the label which appears most similar to the 50s examples in the label resource (pic attached). Edit: specifically it looks most like this one, which says it also comes from a bed jacket. That is the only label and there are no signs of any others having been cut out. I could see it being early 60s, though. The 3 round moonglow shank buttons are pretty identical IIRC to a 60s peignoir I have.
 

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There's so much to learn! One of the first things I quickly realized when starting to sell vintage is how little I knew. It's getting better but there are so many items I know next to nothing about. And I have definitely learned you can't always rely on other online sellers for accurate information.
 
can't always rely on other online sellers for accurate information
I would add that you can NEVER rely on unknown sellers. When I am not coming up with enough information on my own, I will do a search and look for reliable sellers who I know to do their research (other VFG members, sellers who I have done business with, etc), I will also look for an article of clothing that I can definitively date, and look at what the seller says. If they are bullshitting, I know that their research might be shoddy on their other items. So, if you are using other sellers to confirm what you already know, that is more reliable than looking for an answer you cannot prove yourself. This works for narrowing down the date of labels, too. You have to be able to recognize the clues on the garment, before you compare your label to theirs. Pick a few things for your own research and confirmation - patterns, reliable sellers, the label resource, pants rise - things you can recognize on your own, so you are only comparing what you know to what you are being told. Starting with a burn test can take a lot of the guesswork out of the beginning of the process! You can often tell a range of time, based on what the fiber is - especially in the eras of synthetics, as new products were in development all the time and have patent dates. I never go on just the label. It is helpful, but without the other clues lining up, it cannot be the only source of information! This is why when someone posts just a picture of the label, one of us always chimes in to also see the item.
 
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