Quick question about fabric....

Sweetrockingal

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Hi everyone I hope I can get some help with this.... I was just wondering if there is such thing as a blended seersucker fabric not (100% cotton) from 50s. let attach some pics hope they can help. the dress is crinkley and sheer so i thought it was seersucker... :help:





 
yep i was thinking nylon too if not an acetate blend. I have a montgomery ward magazine from 1948 that had 6 swatches of Rayon blends. One that caught me by suprise was the rayon acetate crepe. This is clearly not a crepe, but the point being; I think it is a blen and a burn test would be wise. If it is s blend, it will still be hard to determine from the burn test. If it is just nylon though, the burn test will make it obvious!
 
I have never done a burn test and wouldn't know how it works. I was lookin online for similar dresses some people have it listed as seersucker but some I found deadstock and say nylon. Is there such thing as a nylon seersucker haha I'm so confused.
 
Yes Nylonis the fiber content, what it is made of. Seersucker is the style (the crinkle effect) like Plaid is the style wool is the fiber but both can describe the same fabric.

Hope that makes sense!
 
Oh so it is ok to have listed the dress as a seer sucker dress... because I sold it and now the person who bought it wants a refund saying that the dress is not seersucker.... I don't know what to do or how to explain it to her. thanks for all your help anything else is greatly appreciated :hiya:
 
Well god news bad news.... I am not sure that your fabric is seersucker, I was waiting for more fabric knowledgeable Guilders to come along :-)

A quick search came up with http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-seersucker.htm

but many more web sites also stated the same thing; seersucker is defined a cotton based fabric. If this is not cotton the I am guessing technically it cannot be seersucker, however a search for nylon seersucker also came up with numerous results (as it is generally considered a weave) so alas, here we stand non the wiser. I am sure the much more seasoned will come along and clarify.

As far as the customer, if they are not happy with it, and you did not state in your listing as being a blend or perhaps nylon then I think you should seriously consider the refund. When buying vintage many consider the fiber content for cleaning purposes. If they buy only cotton or linen fabrics so they can clean them at home, then they are in trouble with this piece. That is my opinion of course, there are many points to consider. It is a pretty piece.

How long have you been selling (online?)? My first year I ate a lot of "issues" due to inexperience and I am by no means an expert now, but I have a much better grasp on the ins and outs of online selling.

If you didn't sell it for too much and it is in good condition, take it back, its pretty and should sell easy. Of course wait until you get the item back to make sure it hasn't been damaged before you issue a refund.

Good luck and I hope you get the answer that you need.
 
I agree with Jennifer in that it looks like a nylon - many sellers are ignorant of fabrics, but it's one of the first things that I'll look for and ask questions if I'm not sure. As J mentioned, seersucker is a weave, not a fabric (we had this come up recently on the VFG forums) but many people associate seersucker with cotton and will assume that it is, if you don't say otherwise.

If you didn't list the content as being synthetic, I would be inclined to give the customer the benefit of the doubt and refund her. There's a big difference between natural and synthetic fibres and I always price the first higher than the latter because many do not like to wear synthetics.

Nicole
 
That looks like a lovely dress! I agree with Nicole and Jennifer--seersucker is a weave, but is often, probably mostly, associated as being cotton (in fact, one of my sewing books defines it as cotton in a crinkly weave, another one just defines it as the weave with no mention of fiber). I, too, think it's probably nylon. I generally associate seersucker with being a vertical-pattern weave, but sounds like it can be horizontal as well.

If your listing didn't state the fiber content and the buyer was expecting cotton, I would take the return and issue the refund as long as dress is in "as-sent" condition.

If you don't know how to do a burn test, there is tons of information on the web on how to do one. Even if a burn test is inconclusive, you can "guesstimate" what the fiber is, as long as you say in your listing you "believe this is xxxx...." One of the things that is a sticky wicket for me about buying online is that so many sellers do not list the fiber in their descriptions. Even without a burn test, it's often fairly easy to tell what a particular fiber is because you've handled so much of it. If you have difficulty identifying a fiber and there's no place to snip a piece for a burn test, it could be blend (that's what I sometimes find) and you can often make an educated guess as to what the primary content is. If you don't know what it is, simply state you don't know, and the buyer can then decide to buy, not buy, or ask more questions.

I was browsing a site the other day that sells only high-end items, for several hundreds of dollars (believe me, not to buy anything--just to look!), and a great many of the dresses did not have their fiber content listed. I would never, ever spend that kind of money without seeing, or asking, what the fiber is.....

In any event, the dress is really nice and I'm sure you won't have trouble selling it again!
 
Just agreeing with the others... It does look to be nylon or a similar synthetic. Does it feel cool to the touch; cooler than a known piece of cotton? Then it is probably a synthetic.

Nylon was often woven, then heat was applied to produce the puckers. It's not seersucker, which is made puckery in the weaving process.
 
Well I had sold the dress for $85 because it is in pristine condition and is a rare xxxl size measuring at a max 42" waist. I did have other people watching the dress so I can only hope that they will be interested in the dress still. I have been selling for about 3 years now and never had to refund someone so I am just weary of whether I'd get my dress back let alone in the same condition as I sent it out in. I knew the dress was not cotton but I had listed as seersucker because I thought that referred to the puckering style of the fabric. AAHHHH, well I guess I learn from my mistakes and hope I get my dress back thanks all for the help :)
 
You didn't really make a "mistake," but one has to bear in mind when listing what a potential buyer will make of it.... And in this case, it is true that most folks associate seersucker with cotton. It's just really a good idea to always list the fiber content to avoid situations like this.

I'm sure you'll get your dress back. If you don't, or if it comes back and is not in the same condition as shipped, you don't have to refund (unless this is an eBay sale and the buyer files some sort of complaint if you don't refund in full--but most of the time a return and refund go pretty smoothly).
 
Melody--yes! I was thinking it's plissé, too.

As an occasional buyer on eBay and once full-time seller on eBay, I ask sellers to please try to give the content of the fabric. Even a guess or a brief description of how something feels will help me. I can't wear these stiff nylons myself and I avoid them.

Did you refund before receiving the dress? I think it's protocol to wait until you have the item back in your hands before refunding. I've made returns (and taken a couple while selling on eBay.) Unless it's different these days, I think you should wait to refund.
 
99% of seersucker is a color & white stripe.

Obviously, your buyer could see that wasn't the case with this dress, but I just wanted to mention it for future reference.

I think if it were me, I'd accept the return & relist it with the correct information. Even if you had other bidders, you may run into the same problem with them due to the misinformation.

Good Luck - it's really cute!
 
So it is now the 10th I contacted the girl 4/4 after I got your responses.... I have not heard from her since the 6th, nor have I received the dress back.... how long after contacting her about her refund is it still resonable to refund her. I don't want her wearing the dress then refunding it.... I am waiting to receive the dress before refunding as I will check the dress as suggested to make sure it was shipped in same condition as it was sent. If anything she is stuck with the dress and I keep my money. I do agree that it is evident with the pictures that it is not the seersucker 100%cotton that she thought it was, so I don't understand why she did not contact me prior to purchase if she had any questions.... I had the dress on hold for her for a week plenty of time for her to back out... then now I am not getting any contact from her....
 
"how long after contacting her about her refund is it still resonable to refund her."

Did you sell it on your website or on ebay or where? I ask because ebay has pretty specific rules re stuff like this.
If it were me, I'd allow 5 working days only. Then I'd just let it go. If she sends it back to you in like 2 or 3 weeks, & it is in the same condition, I'd refund her minus a restocking fee, regardless of using the wrong fabric name. The pics told the truth.

Also - in case something like this should ever happen again & I hope it doesn't - I would be sure to put a time frame in the actual 'returns terms' part of any & all my items.

Best of Luck!
 
Thanks all for the help! I had listed the dress on etsy. she actually sent the dress out and did not tell me I received it today all looks well so I refunded her, and relisted the dress. unfortunately I did not remember to charge for a restocking fee especially since I get charged a final vaule fee. at least etsy fees are not as bad as ebay.... its over and done with dress back for sale hopefully to someone that will appreciate it... Thanks again everyone :)
 
Originally posted by Sweetrockingal
unfortunately I did not remember to charge for a restocking fee

since the return is due to the fabric not being represented correctly initially (seller's fault as opposed to a buyer's fault), a restocking fee should not be charged anyway.

and i agree, as everyone says, it should still sell very well for you. i consider this as part of the "learning curve" ~
 
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