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Im really stumped about this dress, could someone please help me with the era. Thank you

the bottom is velvet I will post a pic of the construction




and would this dress be considered a flapper? I tried to research the label - no luck. This dress is velvet too



 
Both are newer, I would say mid-late 80s on the bottom. The top is a bit more puzzling, since it's the classic column gown. I would venture a guess of post 75, though. Not seeing construction/seams/labeling/fiber content on them really does make it harder to date.
 
I'm going to go late '60s on the column dress and perhaps even more modern for the second: I loved that style when I was going through my gothy phase so I'll put it as either '80s or '90s. Is the velvet stretch?
 
I'm seeing late 60's on that first dress too,I love the criss cross ribbons on the bodice. And I always associate crushed velvet with the 90's, as I remembering my dad having a couple of terrible crushed velvet shirts then. Your dress is great though! I think it would do very well for a 20’s party, I see flapper!
 
Late 60's on #1 very pretty I think the stark black/creamy contrast and the LONG velvet skirt makes it a winner for the upcoming party season

and definately 90's on #2 I had a dress very similar in burgundy circa 95 or so
 
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