UPDATE! HELP! Shoe dating help, please! 30's? 40's?

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UPDATE! HELP! Shoe dating help, please! 30\'s? 40\'s?

**** NEW QUESTION REGARDING THESE SHOES, WAY BELOW!****

About as narrow as I can get on these is 30's/40's.
Can anyone please help date these more specifically? Explanations of why are always great, too.


<img src="http://www.elsewherevintage.com/images/goldmesh10.jpg">


More info & pics can be found here:
http://www.elsewherevintage.com/goldmesh.htm

THANKS!
 
I'm getting a '30s vibe, but I'm no shoe expert. It's just a feeling, so I can't offer an explanation. :question:

Laura
 
I'm getting a '30s vibe, but I'm no shoe expert. It's just a feeling, so I can't offer an explanation. :question:

Laura
 
I just acquired a pair very, very similar to these from the original owner who wore them to her prom in ca 1942 -43. And I found a very similar pair in the Sears catalog for 1943 as well.

Hollis
 
I read somewhere in my research of shoes that the almond shape in was late 30's, early 40's. I wish I could remember where I read that though. Been looking through so many books lately that they are all starting to look the same:(
 
Do they have an open toe? It looks closed in the picture...

If it has an open toe then they are 1939 or later. They look wartime to me because of the knock-on heel -- a cheaper way to make shoes, typical of wartime manufacture. Hollis probably has it spot on - c. 1942-43
 
A knock-on heel is a heel that is added, after the upper has been completed. It is literally knocked on before the sock is placed over the insole. It is the cheapest and easiest way to add a heel but it also the least secure heel and is the one most likely to break off if not careful. You can usually tell them by the sharp 90 degree angle from the bottom of the sole to the inside breast of the heel. Breasted heels are added before the outersole is added which increases the cost of production and requires greater skill, but you end up with a more secure heel.
 
Yes.. they are open toe. (there's a link under the pic to the listing which has more images, if needed)
And the heel does seem a little less well made than others. The interior of the heel (the part that faces the underside of the shoe) is actually covered in some kind of paper that's gotten brittle over the years. I carefully pulled back a corner and there is wood under there!

Ok... so early 40's it is! Thanks all :wub:
 
When i was younger, i was always pretty incredulous at the plot device in shows/movies of a lady running and the heel of her pump breaking off cleanly. i guess knock on heels are the reason
 
*** UPDATED QUESTION!***

Sorry to bump this thread back up after so long... but I'm sitting here looking at the pics of these and getting ready to stick these up on ebay.

In light of the lesser quality construction of these heels.. what would be a fair starting & BIN price, do you think?
Or are they even worth selling if some poor gal will just likely end up with a broken off heel?
Heh.. or maybe I should just advise that she not go swing dancing in them!
 
Personally I would not think that should make you start them any lower. Personally I would give the heels a good tug to be sure they are still secure and tight and list them. I start most of my shoes are 19.99 or 24.99.
 
I agree with queenie. As long as the heels are secure NOW, that's all you need to be concerned with.

oh & check yer email, Christine. ;)

leisa
 
i listed 'em last night... started at 19.99, i think. I'll have hubby give 'em a good tug (still workin w/ one arm while fracture heals)

I put a 39.99 BIN on them... think thats fair? I don't find that a ton of people are using BINs lately... but want to have a fair option for impatient people like myself! Especially since bidding wars are more scarce these days!
 
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