very old Burberrys Coat need any info

[Jose Robles]

I bought this very old Burberrys coat, it only has the neck tag and a manufacture tag under it, from the research i have done the info on the manufacture tag is showing a date of either 1926 or 1909? im thinking it is from early 1900's to 1930 ish i had an appraiser look at it and and they werent much help, it has no care tag and is in decent condition, it doesnt have that burberrys plaid lining just a silky peach colored lining , if you can give me some info, maybe if youve seen a similar coat i would appreciate any help

 

[retro ruth]

The way dates are written in UK, that reads to me as 26th January 1909 - we always write day/month/year - I'm not saying that's definitely the date of the coat, but that's how it reads to me.

The check lining didn't start until 1920, according to our label resource, but of course that doesn't mean all coats had that lining after 1920.


https://vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/burberrys/

 

[Jose Robles]

thank you Retro Ruth

 

[Jose Robles]

does anyone know where i can find an expert in vintage Burberry Clothing?

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

Perhaps if you wrote to Burberry they may be of some assistance. According to the Burberry history the trench was invented in WWI, so 1909 would not be correct.

I read you tried an appraiser, was that a known vintage clothing auction appraiser?

 

[retro ruth]

. According to the Burberry history the trench was invented in WWI, so 1909 would not be correct.

I don't think this is a trench coat, which would have belt loops, be double breasted, have a gun flap and epaulettes.

 

[retro ruth]

There's an illustration of the original Burberry trench coat here and it looks a very different style to this one.
https://uk.burberry.com/c/our-history/

 

[Jose Robles]

Burberry Started in 1856 according to the history pages, and yes i wrote to burberry, i got a canned response "We are unable therefore to comment on the authenticity of this Burberry coat on this occasion and as this coat dates back over 100 years we would not have any information available" i never asked them to authenticate anything, I only asked if they had any information at all or if they knew of a source of info they could point me to. anyway you are correct this is not the traditional classic Trenchcoat, i think they call this model a "Car" Coat. i get the feeling its a ladies coat but i cant be certain

 

[Jose Robles]

Perhaps if you wrote to Burberry they may be of some assistance. According to the Burberry history the trench was invented in WWI, so 1909 would not be correct.

I read you tried an appraiser, was that a known vintage clothing auction appraiser?

it was on online appraisal "value my stuff.com" one of the most trustworthy sites but now i know i need to find a more specialized appraiser, do you know one that might be able to help?

 

[retro ruth]

If the buttons are on the right side, it's a man's coat.

Sorry, I don't know any appraisers.

 

[poppysvintageclothing]

Ruth is right it is not quite a trench coat as it would need to have all those other details.
I don't see this as being a coat that is over 100 years old. As Ruth mentioned the buttons will tell if it is a man's or a woman's coat.

 

[MagsRags]

I know we have at least one VFG member who is a certified appraiser, maybe more. @bycinbyhand ?

 

[bycinbyhand]

I know we have at least one VFG member who is a certified appraiser, maybe more. @bycinbyhand ?

I am, indeed ; ))

 

[Rue_de_la_Paix]

It does not strike me as an automobile coat. Those were more of a duster style, longer and more full. And yes, not a trench coat. I get a sense this is simply a man's overcoat or top coat, maybe 1930s 1940s. I am not an expert in the history of Burburry's labels, however.

I might expect a coat from 1909-1920 to be longer and a bit fuller cut.

Can you show the entire lining? Is it fully lined everywhere? Is the lining silk or is it rayon, etc?

 

[Jose Robles]

not a full lining, top half is lined, and dont know what he material is lining is a silky material, coat has no care tag or a materials tag

 

[Rue_de_la_Paix]

The partial lining suggests a later, rather than early, coat.

 

[Jose Robles]

this one is from the 30's and has similar half lining and no nova check plaid

 

[Circa Vintage Clothing]

I agree with Barbara, I see a more recent coat here.

The half-lining is something that is more commonly seen in '40s-'50s so I would inspect the fabric: it appears to be a peach rayon twill, which was very popular during this time. The raglan sleeves were also a popular '50s-early '60s style.

This is a widely used style that I usually call just a coat, overcoat or rain coat. It's definitely not a trench.

The Label Resource doesn't have any Burberry labels that include the words 'Made in England' until the early '60s but there is a lack of '40s-50s Burberry labels there (I'll keep my eye out for some) but the other reason I don't think this is an early 20th century coat is that the main label at least appears to have been resewn in a slightly different place. It's possible that these labels were not originally attached to this coat at all.

I would expect a '40s-50s Burberry to have the distinctive check lining.

On the available information I would expect this coat to be from the '50s.

 

[Circa Vintage Clothing]

this one is from the 30's and has similar half lining and no nova check plaid

I recommend caution when viewing seller's listings online, as there is a lot of misrepresented and misdated clothing. This particular seller is not a specialist vintage seller, focusing on modern and contemporary style and does not indicate any evidence to back up her claim that it is '30s but from what she has included, I can not agree with her '30s dating. This coat also looks post-war to me. It's a nice coat.

 

[Rue_de_la_Paix]

I agree with Nicole. This is man's casual top coat from the 1950s. This label is right for 1950s also.