Vintage 40's 50's?

Sheila Dawson

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I have a issue with a seller, she claims this dress is from the 40's or 50's. I believe it's actually from the 90's or newer, with a nod to 40's style. The material feels like rayon or polyester silky texture. The zipper is YKK plastic coil type. The edges are finished with an overlock stitch. Any feedback would be helpful , thanks
 

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Hi there! Sorry about the your issue with the seller. I would have to agree that it is 1980s or 90s does 1940s. The serged seam wasn't widely used in the 1940s and the zipper would probably have been metal. It looks however to be a nicely made dress and captures some of the 40s style that many people love.
 
Hi Sheila, I agree that this is a modern set, probably from the '90s. I can't see '40s or '50s influence, it looks very modern to me but perhaps hand made by a skilled seamstress.

Joji, serging (what we call overlocking in Australia) is an old technique that's seen on menswear from the early 20th century, and ladies lingerie from about the '20s. I've seen it in dressing gowns and house dresses from the '30s onwards and lots of dresses in the '40s but there are differences in serging techniques in different eras according to the machines available. I don't think the home sewer had access to the technology until the early '80s (maybe a little earlier) and I think that's why there is this myth that only modern clothes have it. Factories used overlockers/sergers routinely since WW2 and mass production really took off, but you don't see it in the top quality garments because they were still hand finished. As well, overlocking/serging can be added to a garment during a modern update or alteration - it's easy to tell if this has happened because the stitches won't go right into the corners but stop a little short, veering off.

Re: zippers, they're often replaced so it's helpful to look closely at the stitches for signs that you're not looking at the original fastening - eg, different colour thread, small holes or marks where the zipper was originally and had been unpicked. Maybe the zipper is sewn on top of the lining rather thn inside, or inside the facing. There are many things to keep in mind with dating vintage because updates and repairs are not uncommon.
 
Thank you for clarifying Nicole! I do know that in large woolen mills serging was used but other than that I did not know it was used elsewhere also.
 
Thanks for everyone's help, it is a very well made dress. I have the 40's look without the age related problems of a 70 year old garment..not bad for a 12.00 purchase:USETHUMBUP:
 
hi my name is whonda i have a dress from the villager suede i think with the same color of embroidery i have pics just not sure how to put them on here the dress is a maroon top with a long skirt size 12 its in great shape no holes and no rips!!
 
I don't know if anyone else can confirm this but the only invisible zips I have seen on 1940s garments are of a very different type to contemporary versions. The 1940's zip teeth were on the front of the zip and were covered with two tiny plaquets of fabric, which went into the zip head when it fastened, whereas a modern invisible zip has the teeth on the back, with the pull on the front and the zip head running up the back, and only the nylon teeth go through the zip head.
 
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