Vintage neckties ~

I LOVE them! they are fun, colorful, so cute, great designs,
such a breeze to pack for shipping ~but gads! not a clue how to date them.

any help? suggestions? rule of thumb? tips, or especially a good book anyone can recommend?
thanks,
yvonne
 
Hi Von, ooohh, I love ties, too! Have about a hundred of them, but never get around to listing many of them... Wanna buy some? LOL! Just kidding....

Anyway, I've not seen a reference book on just ties, but I have the Antique Trader Vintage Clothing Price Guide, and it has a short chapter on ties.
Some things I look for, though I'm not an expert by any means... Label, width, fabric, length. I find that tie labels usually "look" their era pretty clearly.

Width can be tricky, because wide and skinny have been in style both at the same time at times. But, e.g., 60's wide ties are different than, say, 40's wide ties. 40's wide ties, at least the ones I've seen, tend to have a sort of flared shape to them--narrow through the neck area and below, and flaring to very wide at the bottom. The beautiful handpainted ties of the late 40s & early 50s are often shaped like that. I think the very narrow skinny ties can span a few decades; I find those difficult to date and usually look at the pattern and fabric on those. I have quite a few I think are from the early 60s.

Acetate ties are, I think, usually pre 1960 or into the early 60s; dacron polyester late 50s into the 60s, and, of course, 100% polyester, late 60s into what, the early 70s? Silk runs across eras. And vintage ties are usually shorter than modern-era ones (sometimes I find it hard to tell a modern from a vintage, especially the traditional striped & foulards.

I'd say that my first clue when I'm out looking at ties are the patterns, then I go from there. I'm sure there are folks here far more expert than I am in this area, but hope this helps a bit!
 
Vintage ties are a blast, aren't they?

There are some great dating tips in this ebay guide:

http://reviews.ebay.com/Dating-Vintage-Neckties-from-the-30s-thru-the-60s_W0QQugidZ10000000003472300

Here are some good titles for help with tie history/dating: Roseann Ettinger's "20th century Ties Pre 1955" ,Sarah Gibbings' "The Tie: Trends & Traditions", Michael J Goldberg's "The Ties That Blind".

Rod Dyer and Ron Sparks' "Fit to be Tied" focuses only on "Bold Look" era ties (ie 40s/50s), but it's chock full of eye candy and also great because you get a real feel for the range of designs out there.
 
Wow~ you guys are GREAT~ thanks so much Anne, and Carrie, thats a wonderful link, and thanks for the book tips, i'm so addicted to reference books, but each time i buy one it seems when i get home its the "wrong one"

And Carrie (bungalow) thats so cool! and great your not in competition. Your friend's guide was wonderful. i even rated it for her. I'm so leary of some of the guides as often they are "personal information" and not factual. She has other mens clothing guides that are great as well.

thanks so very much all of you!
von
 
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