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Dating Shiny Accessories

Discussion in 'PUBLIC Vintage Fashion - Ask Questions Get Answers' started by StitchesandSnags, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    Hello again, everyone! I have two pieces I've been strugging to date.

    My fiancé and I found this ring for $40.00 at our local antique mall. I've been wondering about its age. It seems to have crosses and I'm not certain about the silver content.

    I found this mesh Whiting and Davis purse and I've been looking for label matches for about a month.


    Thank you for any further information.
     
  2. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    I sincerely apologize for the lacklustre photographs before. It's easier to see what's what in these:
     

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  3. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing VFG Board Member Staff Member VFG Past President

    If there are no hallmarks or stamps on the ring, it would be best to bring them in to a local jeweler to look at for you regarding the silver content.
    The stone on the ring appears to be an amethyst, I wonder if it may be Celtic in origin.

    The Whiting and Davis mesh bag is most likely post war, they have been making bags since the 1890s and went into mass production after 1912.

    This info is included in our label resource for you.

    http://vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/whiting-davis/
     
  4. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    I do see some engravings on the ring but they're microscopic. I'll have to find my magnifying glass. I tried searching up similar tags and I think it's 1940s. Thank you!
     
  5. Vintage Sparrow

    Vintage Sparrow Registered Guest

    The ring does look celtic in origin. If you can find decent lighting and have a macro setting you may be able to take a photo of the markings. If not, get the magnifying glass out.

    If it's marked, it might just be purity and makers mark as date letters were only compulsory on wedding and mourning rings.
     
  6. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing VFG Board Member Staff Member VFG Past President

    To keep in mind about the Whiting and Davis bag, as per our resource.

    "Production of metal mesh halted during WWII to assist with the war effort. Keep this in mind when attempting to precisely date Whiting & Davis handbags."
     
  7. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    I see initials. G.F. I think the symbol next to it is a crown but I'm not certain.
     
  8. Vintage Sparrow

    Vintage Sparrow Registered Guest

    Ah, okay. Unless anyone else has any ideas, I would suggest taking this to a specialist. The GF could be a maker that I can't find in my resources, but it probably stands for Gold Filled, which could mean it's rolled white gold. The crown, if that's what it is, indicates it is made in a country with a monarch. The design of the crown would tell you which country.
     
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  9. Rue_de_la_Paix

    Rue_de_la_Paix VFG Member

    The purse looks fairly contemporary to me, 1970s to 1990s. Not sure, but it does not have the look of the pre 1960s W & D purses.
     
  10. Metro Retro Vintage

    Metro Retro Vintage VFG Member

    I thought the same, given the Celtic Knot styling and amethyst in that claw style setting (simulating a thistle head).

    Is the GF within a frame/cartuche? If so, what shape is that frame (as best as you can describe it)? That may help with the dating, and the ring is likely Sterling.
     
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  11. I agree that the bag is more modern.
     
  12. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    Good evening everyone and thank you for your responses. If I dated the bag back to the '80s do you think it's accurate? As for the ring the initials are sunken in.
     
  13. StitchesandSnags

    StitchesandSnags Registered Guest

    This is the best picture I could get in terms of ring markings:
     

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  14. Metro Retro Vintage

    Metro Retro Vintage VFG Member

  15. Vintage Sparrow

    Vintage Sparrow Registered Guest

    I turned it upside down and looks like S.P. It is difficult to tell from the photo.
     

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