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1950s nylon panties?

Discussion in 'PUBLIC Vintage Fashion - Ask Questions Get Answers' started by regan, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. regan

    regan Registered Guest

    Hi all! This is my recent find, found in Los Gatos CA. They are sheer nylon peachy pink panties. They have ruffles and bows, a high cut leg and a french label (Rasurel Modele Depose)that I never heard of,
    anyone ever heard of it? Do you think these are from the 50s? I think the label looks old.
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  2. regan

    regan Registered Guest

    So no opinions about these panties? What makes some vintage panties more desirable than others? I have seen a pair Vanity Fair briefs with lace inserts (but really nothing that special) go for almost $300 on Ebay. I am just trying g to figure out why they are worth that much?
     
  3. Tabbyannabel

    Tabbyannabel Registered Guest

    Were they worn by Marilyn Monroe? Lol

    I can't help on the knickers, sorry. Cute though!
     
  4. regan

    regan Registered Guest

    Yeah exactly. It does not make any sense to me.
     
  5. Rue_de_la_Paix

    Rue_de_la_Paix VFG Member

    1950s to early 1960s, French and frilly. Depose' is simply like the word "patent" is in English. People, usually male, buy odd lingerie usually because they have a certain childhood memory for them. 'Nuff said there.
     
  6. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    Well yeah, I was going to say more actually. Certain vintage lingerie does well when it's marketed to the CD/TV buyer and to certain specialised tastes. Larger sizes especially. Keywording for those buyers can raise your sale price. Being both sheer and frilly, those knickers could do well, especially if they are bigger.
     
  7. regan

    regan Registered Guest

    Thanks for the info. They are bigger a size 41. I know a lot of people buy them as a fetish item, some panties go for a ridiculous price, some for nothing and they are similar in style. I will research them more and find the right keywords.
     
  8. pauline

    pauline Registered Guest

    I think ladies who c0llect and wear original vintage often pass over on panties/ bars, maybe it's because of sizing, not been a matching set, or maybe they feel strange wearing vintage panties, I imagine it's is a market which can be very unpredictable ( I did have a better word to describe my thoughts but it sound odd in respect of the garment we talking about).
     
  9. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    Regan, if you are ebaying, making it a private listing is important. I've only sold nylon frilly nightdresses, and stockings, with a nod to this end of the market, but that much I know. As with everything, presentation is very important too. But some of those high priced ones you've seen, may have their own following in this 'scene'- I couldn't get as much for my frilly babydolls as I saw some other sellers getting, and I was using similar KWs.
     
  10. Tabbyannabel

    Tabbyannabel Registered Guest

    You learn something everyday! Who knew I was so naive? And I even worked in a lingerie shop at one time. :)
     
  11. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

    Okay, I am finding this discussion fascinating, but excuse my ignorance..is the market you are talking about for 'drag'/transgendered/transvest?
     
  12. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    TV/CD means tranvestite / cross-dresser. I have used tv/cd as a key word for certain lingerie. Drag is kind of different, to my mind, for though it can mean simply cross-dressing, it really brings drag queens to mind, which is another ball game.

    I think there are also particular fetishisms, as has been suggested, for instance I've seen sissy used as KW. My knowlege is hazy and I'm happy to keep it that way. I don't mind what any consenting adults get up to, but I don't necessarily want to know the details. I hope I'm being appropriate to this forum with this kind of info. I'm very matter-of-fact about these kind of subjects - and I'm pretty unshockable really.

    On the other hand, these knickers would also be great for a female burlesque performer, or any woman who has that kind of style. Personally when I sell vintage lingerie that I think might also appeal to cd men, or to fetishists, I will use appropriate keywords as tags, but otherwise don't make any particular point of it in the listing.
     
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  13. pauline

    pauline Registered Guest

    The thing is a lot of men who buy such items are in the "closet", so standing in a queue at a check holding someting is way too embarrassing if spotted by some one from work or a family member/friend, shopping on line and using the credit card Ok it would show up on the statement and the other half might ask question if she does not already know, so using ebay or similar and pay pal allows them to have a private and discrete purchasing and payment system, and they can rely upon the seller to be more discrete than a lot.
     
  14. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    You are right Pauline, I think that is a big factor. Hence the private listings. I've seen sellers mention that their items will come in plain packaging with no branding, for the same reason. I've even been discreet about what I put on a customs form for the same reason - ie saying clothing, rather than nightdress.
     
  15. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

    ah.....I was thinking Television/Compact Disc....hadn't thought about the customs forms, although I hesitated just the other day putting 'bra' on the form....what is a private listing?
     
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  16. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    It's an option on ebay. It makes the sale and bids completely anonymous to everyone except to the buyer and seller - ie your ebay ID and your feedback score, doesn't show up as the bidder/buyer of that item, except to the seller.
     
  17. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

  18. pauline

    pauline Registered Guest

    Maybe I am not the same as every one else becuse I never search using key words like CD or TV and iwill always avoid any thing marked as such.
    I am also on record in other place as saying that I do take offence when any one calls me a cd or TV becuse I feel it's very discriminating term.
    it's in my opinion like referring to a person size or looks.

    I not sure if others feel the same wayas i do becuse for almost the same reason as Ruth say I am not that interested in what others do or want to.
     
  19. Retro Ruth

    Retro Ruth Administrator Staff Member

    I don't know if they are often searched terms. I would think size tags are more important. I'm surprised you find them discriminating though, as it's how I've heard people describe themselves. Though I'm sure those terms can be used in a derogatory way.
     
  20. pauline

    pauline Registered Guest

    I been on several photography forums over the last few year and no matter what topic I posted about some one always managed to have a dig and put in the "C " word (cross dressers) unbelivable you do not get that around the two vintage forums any where else it's worse than a red rag to a bull.
     

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