I didn't mean the blood drinking people...i meant the other people who don't drink blood but just otherwise think they want to be vampires. Anyway, i think you are right about the intersecting circles. And I wanted to comment on the catholic thing. I think it makes a lot of sense for Goths to be/have been Catholic or to just adopt the imagery and fashion elements associated with it if not The wearing of medals, large crucifixes, celtic crosses, and icons, relics, and so forth... is unlike any other major religion that I can think of that has such a for lack of a better image...such a vast pantheon. Its not about prim penny loafer wearing nuns of today, but more connected to medieval monks. It is not about church politics of today, but about another time long ago....mysterious.. In fact an interesting side note....or not so interesting. My aunt (my mom's older sister) really really all she talked about as a kid and a young lady were to grow up to be a nun. And then Vatican II occcurred (for those of you that aren't in the know...how it relates to fashion is that women were no longer required to wear hats in church and nuns were no longer required to wear a full habit.) Anyways, after that, my aunt no longer wanted to be a nun..the mystique, etc, was all gone! The appeal was of course helping people, and she wanted to be a teaching nun, but if she couldn't walk around and look like that, then she would still help people out but was not taking the vows! The other thing i wanted to comment about is wiccans. In part of the wiccan practice different colors attract different energies. i.e. green is fertility, Black is protection and attracts positive energies..and there are others i just don''t know em all. Of course color on its own is very powerful in evoking moods and feelings in interior design, outfits,,,,they just take it another step further. So in essence, people who are true sincere earth oriented wiccans, are less perhaps goth and more, just wearing black for a different reason though....though i am sure goth fashion does attract some people in a crossover way. World religions and practices classe in long yon ago school is finally coming in handy!!!!