Date Help on these Salvatore Ferragamo shoes

VintageFray

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I think these might be early 50's? But if anyone thinks otherwise please let me know. They're a pair of black suede ferragamo shoes, with the rather bashed box. They have a gold coloured buckle, and a lovely witchy point to the toe. What does everyone think on the date? Thanks for all your help. Rosine (Click on the image to enlarge it)

 
I can't see the enlarged picture for some reason. Go to the label resource and see which label is used on the inside of the shoe. If these are older than the early 60s, they will have the 2nd label, with the word "creations" instead of "Salvatore".

Lizzie
 
Can you show a picture of the label? I'd reall like to see the font and all, or is it identical to label #3 on the resource?
 
There is something odd about those shoes... Ferragamo didn't always make pretty shoes, a lot of his shoes are heavy and weird like these ones, they just don't get referred to in shoe histories. They look wartime-ish. The U.S. was buying shoes from Ferragamo right into 1941 and again, starting in 1944 after Italy capitulated, so there is really only a couple of years that Ferragamo shoes aren't available this side of the Atlantic. However, the box the shoes came in look like the 1950s box I have with some of my Ferragamos. The upturned toe is something Ferragamo was doing as early as 1937 but he revived it over and over again, so that doesn't help. The heel shape looks early 50s but the rest of the shoe is so heavy looking and black suede is more typical of the late 1940s and early 1950s, especially that heavier suede. Fine kid suedes are more typical of the late 1950s and early 1960s. The label will help, although I don't know when they switched over exactly. Without seeing the label or knowing who made them I would have said wartime or very shortly thereafter, but they could be as late as the mid 1950s. I don't think they date past 1956ish though as they are too heavy and clunky for that period.
 
Well, that blows my theory on the labeling. It will help to see the label, as not only the wording changed, but also the deco-looking background was softened up. It's possible there was a label in-between #2 & #3 on the resource, but I've never seen it. And about a year ago someone posted a pair of late50s/early 60s pumps with label #2. So this is a puzzle.

Anyone going to Florence in the next week or 2? You could check in at the Ferragamo Museum and see for yourself!

Lizzie
 
DOn't tell the Ferragamo museum this but they are terrible at dating their own shoes. They have NO records that predate the 1930s and few records that predate Salvatore's death in 1963. Many of the shoes in their own catalogue are incorrectly dated... Part of the problem is that Salvatore made some styles for years, altering the heels or toes a bit, but later shoes are often misdated as early examples.
 
Oh dear, i thought the label dating was too simple. I'll certainly post the label, but unfortunately the shoes have been well worn, so there inst much left of it. So, possibly late 40's to mid 50's?
 
Ok after looking at my label and all the ones on the label resource, I think I have found a difference between mine and number 3. The triangle between Florence and Italy is smaller, much more like number 2. And the circle around G & A (on label 2 on the resource) is around a & g on my shoes.

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Okay, I feel better now! As Rosine pointed out, this is an entirely different label from either #2 or #3. It has the same, stylized, Art Decoish background of the late 30s label, but the wording of the 60s and later one.

So, may I put this on the resource? I've never seen this particular label, not that I see older Ferragamos every day...

Another difference; my 1930s label reads "Ferragamo's" and Rosine's is "Ferragamo".
 
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