Levis Big E Lot 558 Jacket
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RustySpurVintage
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Also, does anyone know how I can date this? I know Big Es are supposed to be pre-1970s. But I've found some info online saying it is early 60s and some saying 50s. The 557xx seems to be a lot more plentiful online. Would that make my 558 post 557xx? Any ideas?
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Levi's aren't my area of expertise, but there are some great expert websites out there if you try google.
The VFG label resource has a pic of an early '70s big E label so it may be that they were available more recently. Keep in mind that there is a lot of inaccurate information online, so you need to make your own mind up about how reliable the site is.
Personally, I would have another go at that stain - denim is a very robust fabric so the worst you are likely to do is fade the dye a bit, and that would be better than a stain. They generally reduce the value of vintage clothing significantly.
The VFG label resource has a pic of an early '70s big E label so it may be that they were available more recently. Keep in mind that there is a lot of inaccurate information online, so you need to make your own mind up about how reliable the site is.
Personally, I would have another go at that stain - denim is a very robust fabric so the worst you are likely to do is fade the dye a bit, and that would be better than a stain. They generally reduce the value of vintage clothing significantly.
I had a pair of Levi's Big E jeans a few years ago, that I asked about here - you may want to read through the thread, regarding the dating of Big E, which should be pre-1971: http://forums.vintagefashionguild.org/threads/jeans-real-vintage-levis-or-fake.29459/#post-278329
... and I did sell them by the way
Didn't make a great deal of money on ebay, but it was ok. That was one of my first vintage clothes sales - how time flies!
Karin
... and I did sell them by the way
Didn't make a great deal of money on ebay, but it was ok. That was one of my first vintage clothes sales - how time flies!Karin
RustySpurVintage
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Thanks! I've seen the orange tab jeans before, but passed believing them to be newer. I know this jacket is a Type 3 Big E authentic. However, there are a lot of these jackets out there and some are worth more than others. Lot #557XX and 70505 are plentiful. However, Lot 558 is very hard to find. One recently sold on eBay for $200. It is in great condition. Lots of the indigo dye left. Very little wear. No fraying. Minimal fading. However, there is a stain on the shoulder. I tried working it out with alcohol and white vinegar with no luck (and unfortunately I faded the area a bit which ironically makes the stain more noticeable). So it might be blood. Ugh. So I have it soaking today with brushed in meat tenderizer. Anyone have any ideas how to get this out if the meat tenderizer doesn't work?
RustySpurVintage
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Okay. Meat tenderizer does not appear to be working. Any ideas?
Rue_de_la_Paix
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Carbona makes a variety of spot removers, and they have one just for removing blood stains. OxyClean might lift some also.
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Meat tenderiser? Haven't heard that one before.
I'd soak in oxyclean - mix a paste and apply a little to the stain and soak for an hour.
Good luck!
I'd soak in oxyclean - mix a paste and apply a little to the stain and soak for an hour.
Good luck!
I use biological (enzyme) stain removers for blood, rather than oxy- ones - and for ketchup. I'm in the UK so can't recommend brands, but there are bound to be some wherever you are.
RustySpurVintage
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OxyClean got a little bit of it out. I'm going to give it a rest until the Carona Blood stain remover I ordered arrives. Fingers crossed.
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Good luck!
RustySpurVintage
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Ok. After devoting way too many hours to this, I have figured out what works. But first, what didn't work:
1) close to 72 hours total of soaking in Oxyclean
2) Oxyclean paste soak overnight
3) Meat tenderizer paste soak and rinse repeatedly for 24 hours
4) Isopropyl Alcohol
5) White vinegar
What did work: regular strength hydrogen peroxide. I just applied a little at a time with a Q-tip. Repeated for about 48 hours. Stain is almost completely gone and there is minimal fading (as a result of the hydrogen peroxide).
I faded it a bit with all my other work. Mostly I faded it because I took a cloth and scrubbed hard immediately without realizing that the indigo dye on these old coats comes right off. Once again, still learning.
I'll post before and after photos when I'm done.
1) close to 72 hours total of soaking in Oxyclean
2) Oxyclean paste soak overnight
3) Meat tenderizer paste soak and rinse repeatedly for 24 hours
4) Isopropyl Alcohol
5) White vinegar
What did work: regular strength hydrogen peroxide. I just applied a little at a time with a Q-tip. Repeated for about 48 hours. Stain is almost completely gone and there is minimal fading (as a result of the hydrogen peroxide).
I faded it a bit with all my other work. Mostly I faded it because I took a cloth and scrubbed hard immediately without realizing that the indigo dye on these old coats comes right off. Once again, still learning.
I'll post before and after photos when I'm done.