Siete by Oscar de la Renta?

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Amanda N. Cobb

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Hi there! I found a neat wool men's jacket with a Siete by Oscar de la Renta tag in it but I can't find even a scrap of information about this de la Renta line. Does anyone have any info they can share?
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Midge said:
Hi and welcome to the forums! Can you please also post photos of the entire jacket?
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Yes, of course!

There are two other labels in the coat that I've included as well.

Based on the union tag, I know the coat is pre-1976.

Based on the Dry Clean Only tag, I also know it's post 1971.
 

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The wool mark may help to date it, can you show some more pictures, of the whole garment? They speak Spanish in the Dominican where Oscar De La Renta is from and 'Siete' is seven in Spanish. Not sure if you have tried this already. I did a quick skim and it did not seem to bring anything up. There have been lots of different lines by ODLR, and the cursive writing seems to match.

(Apologies had just seen the original post without replies when I responded)

I would hazard a guess at early 80's. Apparently Gimbels closed in 1987. So it surely pre dates that. Maybe one of the stateside experts will chime in (keeping my eyes peeled).
 
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Can you make out the writing on the little label with the number on it? I'm wondering if it is a workers union, may be helpful.
 
Vintagiality said:
I don’t see the photo of the Dry Clean Only tag but why do you think that makes it post 1971?
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Because of the Care Labeling Act issued in 1971, mandating that clothing manufacturers had to put at least one instruction about the care of the garment somewhere on the garment. It's not out of the question that a manufacturer could have elected to include this tag without a law in place but I am under the impression that it wasn't really put into practice/common until this point.
 
Amanda N. Cobb said:
Because of the Care Labeling Act issued in 1971, mandating that clothing manufacturers had to put at least one instruction about the care of the garment somewhere on the garment. It's not out of the question that a manufacturer could have elected to include this tag without a law in place but I am under the impression that it wasn't really put into practice/common until this point.
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Yes they became mandatory with the care labeling act in 1971 but though not as common, were present in earlier garments.
 
Vintagiality said:
Yes they became mandatory with the care labeling act in 1971 but though not as common, were present in earlier garments.
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Sure. I'd love it if it was an older piece but right now I feel obligated to guess 71 to 76. I went ahead and attached an image of the label.. Based on the font, it does seem to be like 60s/early 70s but that's not much ground to stand on. I actually sent a message off to the Oscar de la Renta business, asking them for information. Hahaha, what else is a lady to do? It's odd that I cannot find any other Siete items and not a scrap of information about it.

I was reading last night that in the 50s and I think the 60s, big designers would send "originals" to department stores in America and copies would be made as a special line by that particular department store. This is a big stretch of speculation, but maybe it was an de la Renta line of menswear made for Gimbels?? (Now I really am just throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping it sticks haha).

Edit: omg, Oscar de la Renta team got back to me and they said they don't even carry records for lines that far back. And that actually makes me way sad in terms of dress history. Like, this is part of your brand's legacy!
 

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Amanda N. Cobb said:
Sure. I'd love it if it was an older piece but right now I feel obligated to guess 71 to 76. I went ahead and attached an image of the label.. Based on the font, it does seem to be like 60s/early 70s but that's not much ground to stand on. I actually sent a message off to the Oscar de la Renta business, asking them for information. Hahaha, what else is a lady to do? It's odd that I cannot find any other Siete items and not a scrap of information about it.

I was reading last night that in the 50s and I think the 60s, big designers would send "originals" to department stores in America and copies would be made as a special line by that particular department store. This is a big stretch of speculation, but maybe it was an de la Renta line of menswear made for Gimbels?? (Now I really am just throwing spaghetti at the wall and hoping it sticks haha).

Edit: omg, Oscar de la Renta team got back to me and they said they don't even carry records for lines that far back. And that actually makes me way sad in terms of dress history. Like, this is part of your brand's legacy!
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Interesting and true fact! I know vintage markets where buyers for the big design houses buy vintage from their own houses …. Crazy
 
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