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Help with Hattie Carnegie gown (50s?)

Discussion in 'PUBLIC Vintage Fashion - Ask Questions Get Answers' started by laurenm, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. claireshaeffer

    claireshaeffer VFG Member

    I don't think it's a burn out. A burn out--devore'--is woven with a different fiber from the base.
     
  2. denisebrain

    denisebrain VFG Vice President Staff Member VFG Past President

    What do you think the fabric might be Claire? (I ask to learn—to me it looks like burn-out)
     
  3. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing VFG Board Member Staff Member VFG Past President

  4. Linn

    Linn Super Moderator Staff Member VFG Past President

    It looks like devoré/ burnout to me, also. Here is the definition from Wikipedia:

    Devoré (also called burnout) is a fabric technique particularly used on velvets, where a mixed-fibre material undergoes a chemical process to dissolve the cellulose fibers to create a semi-transparent pattern against more solidly woven fabric. The same technique can also be applied to textiles other than velvet, such as lace or the fabrics in burnout t-shirts.[1]

    Devoré comes from the French verb dévorer, meaning literally to devour

    (The definition in our Label Resource is very similar but a little bit shorter.)
     
  5. denisebrain

    denisebrain VFG Vice President Staff Member VFG Past President

    I got looking for a similar HC label online, and found a few that might confirm that the label itself might be Hattie's.

    Jewelry label:
    https://www.rubylane.com/item/126502-10487-x20Parure
    Coat (not exactly like Lauren's label, but not really like the other labels we have either):
    https://www.auctionzip.com/auction-lot/HATTIE-CARNEGIE-WOOL-MELTON-COAT_7575EEEA5F/
    Scroll down to the label on the box for the opera glasses
    http://hattie-carnegie.info/faqs.html
    and a Hat:
    https://www.hushhush.com/fashion/ac...ie-pink-wool-knit-beret-with-gathered-detail/
     
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  6. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

    Here are some better shots in daylight....it is definitely two levels of fabric and it feels like a fine muslin but I am a fabric dunce.
     

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  7. poppysvintageclothing

    poppysvintageclothing VFG Board Member Staff Member VFG Past President

    Now that I see the close ups - I do see more of a devore fabric.
     
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  8. Rue_de_la_Paix

    Rue_de_la_Paix VFG Member

    I once had a similar fabric in a silk blouse, and it was a burn out fabric. The fabric on your dress is really yummy!
     
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  9. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

    Thanks everyone, so 50s ?
     
  10. claireshaeffer

    claireshaeffer VFG Member

    I agree with Mary Jane, but the key ingredient is that you must have two different fibers.
     
  11. laurenm

    laurenm Registered Guest

    The woven base layer has an almost linen weave feel/look.....could the top weave be silk? The fabric is not 'stiff' but it has alot of sturdiness to it. It's very fine and transparent.
     

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